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RE: TWL: RE: 50amps

From: Bob Peterson (no email)
Date: Thu Jan 01 2004 - 21:14:35 EST

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    Thanks Peter,

    The two separate 30-amp connectors are 2" from each other. I haven't had a
    chance to trace the wiring, but felt the master switch on the AC panel was a
    little strange, providing for accepting 110 VAC from one or the other shore
    power connector but not both. Still has me perplexed.

    Thanks, Bob Peterson

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Peter Bennett [mailto:]
    Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 5:51 PM
    To: Bob Peterson;
    Subject: Re: TWL: RE: 50amps

    Thursday, January 1, 2004, 2:45:26 PM, Bob wrote:

    > A related question re twin 30-amp cords and outlets vs. one 50-amp
    circuit.
    > A boat I looked at the other day had two 30-amp power cords, two
    > 30-amp connectors and two "shore power" selections on the master AC
    > panel. I'm familiar with the practice of paralleling two 30-amp
    > circuits to provide more amperage to the boat, but why then have two
    > independent switch settings on the master AC panel, one for "Shore
    > Power 1" and the other for "Shore Power 2"? The AC panel has a large
    > input selector that can choose "Inverter", "Generator", "Shore Power
    > 1", or "Shore Power 2". The point I'm missing is why have separate
    > selector settings for SP1 and SP2? I can see paralleling the two
    > shore power circuits together, either internally or via an adapter,
    > but why if two 30-amp outlets are available on the dock, would the
    > builder have provided a means by which to select one or the other 110 VAC
    cord, but not both?

    > Any ideas?

    > Thanks, Bob Peterson

    Were the shore power inlets on opposite sides of the boat? I think the
    switch setup you describe would make sense in that case - you connect the
    shore power cord to whichever inlet is easier or will allow it to reach a
    dock outlet.

    It the boat is to be set up to use one or both inlets, then somewhat fancy
    switching will be required, as the electrical code and ABYC require that
    both the hot and neutral conductors from each inlet must be isolated from
    the corresponding conductors of the other
    inlet. The AC distribution panel would have to be broken into two
    sections. If you are using a single inlet, both sections (hot and
    neutral) are fed from that inlet, but if you use two inlets, the hot and
    neutral of the second section must be disconnected from the first inlet, and
    connected to the second.

    On further consideration, a four pole four position switch could handle
    this, and the "Shore Power 2" label may just be a little misleading. The AC
    panel would still be split, but the "Inverter", "Generator", and "Shore
    Power 1" positions would feed both sections from the selected source. The
    "Shore Power 2" position could feed the two sections of the AC panel from
    the two inlets. I suppose that you could arrange the "Inverter" position to
    only feed the inverter to one section of the AC panel - so you can't have
    the inverter run the water heater or air conditioner.

    -- 
    Peter Bennett, VE7CEI    Vancouver, B.C., Canada
    GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
    Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver-webpages.com/van-ps
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