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TWL: Fw: Re: [Boatpokers] Replacement Value for Old Wooden Boats

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Date: Sat Dec 27 2003 - 14:49:25 EST

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    Interesting reading for choosing a carrier and general info, CTL of
    course is: complete total loss.

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    Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:49:43 EST
    Subject: Re: [Boatpokers] Replacement Value for Old Wooden Boats
    Message-ID: <c1 dot 3ad8343b dot 2d149437 at aol dot com>

    The reason for a replacement value was explained to me a number of years
    ago,
    as Dick pointed out, was to allow the underwriter to pick which rate
    would
    apply.

    Let's take a fairly common example, a Catalina 30. They were first built
    in
    1972 or 1973 and can still be ordered from Catalina. In 2002 the price
    was
    $95,000, plus freight, commisioning and tax. In the San Francisco Bay
    Area
    that
    would total about $110K, so the insurance would probably be written for
    $110,000.

    Now, we survey a 1977 Catalina 30 which sold for $17,900. Looking at
    Soldboats and BUC, I come up with a Market value of $18,000, about one
    sixth
    of the
    cost of a new boat.

    What happens if both boats lose the mast? It must be cut away, taking the
    rigging, boom, mainsail, jib and roller furling gear. The component parts
    may
    be
    ordered from Catalina at less than they may be obtained from a collection
    of
    outside vendors and they will fit. The cost is $14,400 (from an actual
    loss on
    a 1984 boat in 2002).

    That is why the underwriter needs to know the ratio between replacement
    and
    market values. He will look at one rate for a 1 or 2:1 ratio and a much
    higher rate for a 6:1 ratio.

    We won't get into the question of the $18,000 boat which would probably
    be
    a CTL if I were the claims manager. I could surely sell the complete hull
    without a rig for more than the difference between the $18,000 and the
    $14,400
    repair cost (less deductible).

    Now, the old wood boat may have a ratio of 25:1, maybe even higher. A
    very
    small loss will often be a CTL, where on a newer boat it would be
    economic to
    repair!

    Mele Kalikimaka, Ha'u'ole Makahiki Ho'u,

    Jack Mackinnon,, AMS.-SMS
    (Senior Marine Surveyor)
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