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TWL: RE: Re: Battery charging question

From: Arild Jensen (no email)
Date: Fri Nov 28 2003 - 23:37:26 EST

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    Jim Fidler wrote:
    Also, can you give us a thorough comment about the West
    Marine battery combiners, based on your experiences?

    REPLY
    Sorry but I do not have any personal experience with the West Marine brand
    combiner.
    However, I have experimented with the Xantrex brand of combiner.

    Based on that testing I would say the concept is good and they should work well.
    What I did notice is that when two very different sized banks are combined
    with these devices, some design factors must be considered.

    If you connect the charging source to the smaller of the two batteries then the
    voltage will rapidly rise as the bulk charge fills up that battery.
    When the threshold voltage is reached the combiner closes.
    At that point if the other and bigger bank is also very depleted, the smaller
    battery discharges into the large and the sensed voltage may well drop below the
    disconnect point. This effect may cycle many times before the bigger battery
    is recharged enough to keep the combiner closed.

    For this reason, I recommend that the charging source be connected to the
    larger of the two battery banks.
    Unfortunately this poses other problems.
    When you have a large inverter connected to the house bank and twin engine
    alternators connected to the their respective start bank, some compromises are
    needed. In such installations you might want to consider having the one engine
    alternator feeding both start batteries ( if you have twin engine) and the other
    engine is then fitted with a high output alternator for charging the house bank.

    If you have well maintained engines, there is no reason why you cannot use one
    bank to start both engines. In which case you do not need a combiner to join
    both start banks together. However you do need to have a combiner to recharge
    the start battery from the inverter/charger unless that unit happens to have an
    echo charger or some other auxiliary output for a second battery.

    Combiners work best when they join batteries of approximately similar capacity
    and they are discharged somewhat equally.
    If you use a combiner to joint a severely depleted bank with a fully or nearly
    full charged bank then there will be a large short duration current flow as
    the two banks equalize. In some cases this current flow will exceed the
    ampacity of a 50 amp combiner.

    Perhaps Andina can tell us if there has been any tests done to determine
    contact burn under these loading conditions.

    Regards

    Arild

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