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From: Arild Jensen (no email)
Date: Wed Oct 01 2003 - 19:21:26 EDT
Glenn wrote:
When I asked him why he'd sold the fwd wheelhouse boat he said "Couldn't
eat!" >>> snip<<<<
His point was that the aft-wheelhouse boats are easier to eat and sleep on in
rough weather.
<<< snip<<<
As an aside, it's interesting that virtually all yachts have their primary
steering position well aft.
Comment.
With the exception of the PNW area, it has been my observation that most
forward wheelhouse boats are intended for inshore or sheltered waters.
Working vessels intended for rough water invariably had the wheel house aft.
It is only in recent times that you see the working boats with the wheel house
all the way forward.
It is my suspicion that this move was dictated more from economic pressure to
maximize cargo handling at the expense of creature comforts.
As I have heard a couple fish boat Captains say, you are here to fish not be
comfortable!
Gulf coast crew and supply boats also have forward wheelhouses but that is
dictated by the need to handle the specialized cargo they run.
When you look at the old gill netters, troller and salmon fishing boats, the
helm station is usually aft.
For the smaller craft being worked single handed there was often an aux.
steering station right aft so the sole occupant could steer and handle the gear
at the same time.
Bay areas like the Chesapeake may get choppy but shelter is usually close at
hand compared to working the "Banks" or the North Sea or Bass straits.
Therefore crew comfort for extended periods of time was less critical.
Locally I have seen a number of river fishing boats rigged with rollers and
gear handling equipment over the bow. This works fine in flat water.
The steering shelter is right aft. You don't suppose the owner got smart and
decided that in flat water it didn't matter which end he fished the boat on,
but when it came to getting through the rough stuff he wanted a bit more
comfort. < grin >
Getting back to trawlers yachts. Look at the expedition class yachts intended
for long endurance travelling in remote areas They have the engines and
machinery placed amidships and the accommodations placed from the middle and
going aft on the deck above the engine room.
By contrast, most contemporary luxury yachts intended more for marina cruising
and entertaining, places the engines all the way aft to get rid of the noise
and vibration. When docked, anchored, or cruising in flat water this
optimizes passenger comfort and isolates the machinery and crews quarters well
aft.
Not so on a vessel intended for extended weeks at sea kind of cruising.
Liveaboard as opposed to cruise aboard boats also fall victim to optimizing
the interior volume for creature comfort instead of creature comfort under
way.
The Great Harbor 37 and Krogen Manatee are good examples of this design trend.
I am not knocking it. Simply pointing out these hulls were designed for a
purpose. That purpose was to get the maximum living space in a given hull
length.
Romsdal and Malahide were copied from hulls designed for offshore endurance,
not dockside comforts. Which is why modern derivatives usually compromises
the design to improve habitability in flat water.
If you have even gone through one of these original designs you know how
cramped the galley and other areas are.
BTW when I designed a 65 foot copy of the Romsdal design for friend I ended up
doing pretty much the same compromises that Eric Thomann did on his Abyssinia,
and like y for the same reasons.
Was my design as comfortable in North Sea conditions as a Romsdal? Most likely
not!
However since the intended use was for coastal waters further south, this was
an acceptable compromise to myself and the owner.
Regards
Arild
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