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TWL: Re: RE: Advertising ( was: Passagemaker Magazine)

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Date: Sun Aug 03 2003 - 23:16:47 EDT

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    Arild
    Where do I subscribe to Canadian Boating magazine?

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Arild Jensen" <>
    To: "Ken Rowe" <>; <>
    Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:44 PM
    Subject: TWL: RE: Advertising ( was: Passagemaker Magazine)

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ken Rowe [mailto:]
    > Subject: Advertising ( was: Passagemaker Magazine)
    >
    >
    > Arild seems to know a great deal about DIY magazine editorial and
    > advertising practices and the motivations of its editor. I have no
    > particular insight regarding this publication, other than having read it
    and
    > having observed that the solutions featured in each article invariably
    > happened to be products offerred by companies advertising in that issue.
    >
    >
    > REPLY
    > I guess an explanation is in order.
    > Jan Mundy was editor for Power Boat magazine when I was doing regular
    > columns for them.
    > When she quit to start her own magazine (DIY) she naturally asked me to
    > contribute to the new magazine which I did for a time.
    > Whenever I see her at a boat show she always asks me if I could find
    time
    > to write something new.
    > So while we are acquainted we are not close friends.
    >
    > When I speak of her integrity I think back to a time when she asked me
    to
    > do an article but at the last minute cancelled it to make room for another
    > article.
    > To her credit she still paid for the article although she was not
    legally
    > obliged to do so. And she paid a fair price for the work.
    > Typically editors pay only on publication of an article, not when it is
    > submitted.
    > We also discussed topics suitable for publication and this is how I
    found
    > out how they planned articles and advertising well in advance.
    > Jan routinely asked contributors to give her a list of companies that
    deal
    > in or manufacture the exact or similar products as mentioned in the "How
    To"
    > articles. She also likes to let the readers know when several
    competitive
    > brands are available and if possible get each to advertise.
    >
    > The distinction being that the "How To" article is written from the
    > perspective of the installer or user, warts and all.
    > The advertiser is free to place an ad which only presents the
    > manufacturer's point of view.
    >
    > I can't say this is still true but I have in the past seen articles
    > which did mention some negative aspect to using some products.
    >
    > However it doesn't make a lot of sense to use editorial space on a
    > detailed explanation of how they installed something that didn't work.
    > Readers want to see successful projects. Projects which they themselves
    > could copy and have equal success.
    > So in that sense; no, you are not likely to find an article in DIY
    that
    > totally trashed a product. That would be a waste of time, space and
    energy.
    >
    > From what I can see DIY has found a workable balance that uses
    > advertising to advantage in paying the bulk of the printing cost while
    also
    > giving editorial content that meets the readers expectations.
    >
    > I guess it was the description of DIY as being the "worst offender"
    that
    > stuck in my craw. Those words have some real negative connotations.
    >
    > Perhaps a more neutral choice of words such as "obvious example" would
    > have better conveyed what Ken Rowe really intended to say. < grin >
    >
    > cheers
    >
    > Arild, the scribe -
    > (Published at least once in every Canadian Boating magazine)
    >
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