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TWL: RE: Collision between a Vessel Trawling and a Large Tanker


Subject: TWL: RE: Collision between a Vessel Trawling and a Large Tanker
From: frank weismantel (fxw@XXX.XXX)
Date: Sun Feb 02 2003 - 20:11:13 EST


Thanks Mike,

I read this MAIB Summary and wonder if the tanker was operating under a flag
of convenience. I've had a couple exchanges off list on this subject and am
beginning to believe there is little sense in assuming commercial traffic is
abiding by their operating regulations. Regardless of the regs, I expect we
have reached a point where we have to assume we as pleasure boaters,
fishermen and the like are unseen (or misunderstood, or uncared for, etc..)
by the larger vessel and should be watchful in the extreme, always prepared
to take definite evasive action, even after we establish radio contact with
shipping in our vicinity.

Regarding these FOC carriers; SOLAS, STCW, IMO, COLREGS and all the other
acronyms don't matter to these FOC carriers. Another listee (respected, not
a newby like me) made the comment that such vessels are little more than
floating jails with crews having no training to speak of, limited time on
shore between cruises, differing languages and cultures and extremely low
wages. Boredom and resentment of authority and responsibility are rampant.
This is not a crew description I am comfortable trusting my vessel, life and
the lives of my crew to. To add insult to injury, if you lose at sea, you
might not be around to win in maritime court.

Other thoughts from Mikes Post:

I think we should make certain our own watchstanders understand they are to
call the Captain when shipping approaches and let him or her decide after
the fact if it was worth bringing him to the bridge to assess the situation.

What reason is there for operating a commercial vessel with the radar shut
down? Is there any time when this is an acceptable or legal practice for
commercial shipping?

I am assuming this happened during twilight hours, 1830 - 1930 hrs. Is
fading daylight regarded as the period of maximum visual impairment for
maritime operations? I know it is for flight ops.

Am I the only person that thinks such a defensive posture is advisable? I
know the list rages with discussion on who is the give way vessel and the
like. I'm just thinking it no longer matters in the matter of collision
avoidance since you can no longer divine the quality of the crew on the very
large, very heavy and very dangerous commercial ship.

Best Regards to All...

Frank & Claudette Weismantel
Elverta, CA
Boatless for a little while longer

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