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Subject: TWL: Newbuild inspections (was: Certification and standards)
From: Arild Jensen (elnav@XXX.XXX)
Date: Sun Dec 23 2001 - 14:41:37 EST
At 09:57 AM 12/23/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>CE however gets off into the marveleous european propensity to build
tarriff barriers into product safety
>codes. Japan raises the same practice to high art.
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>Actually there are no EMI specs in UL (don't think there are any in CSA
>either though it has been a while) - those are all handled by the FCC in the
>US.
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>There are actually laws in the US that require such devices to resist legal
>emissions as well as the A/B standards for emissions.
It is simply not cost effective to make consumer equipment resistent to EMI.
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>I have great familiarity with Phillips and Siemens both of whom make fine
products.
>They were however never very competitive in the US except in specialties.
>Generally too expensive.
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> I am unaware of any of the US suppliers you list being very effective
over the last 10
>years.
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REPLY
So what is your point? That CE is worthless and only UL/CSA approvals are
valid?
That only American designed products are worth while and European products
are too expensive.
And therefore we should accept all domestic products but reject others.
Trade barriers is a totally different subject than construction standards
and inspections practices which is where this thread started.
The fact remains that US buyers are not as accustomed to having their
private yachts inspected and surveyed during construction as European buyers.
I have been asked to act as the electrical inspector for a yacht being
built in a local yard. This is considered unusual despite the fact the
builder only builds custom yachts in the 75 foot plus size. By comparison
such inspections are considered the norm in Europe. The quality of work by
the respective builders is not an issue; so what is? Cost is the issue.
European buyers accept that they need to incur the cost of surveys to
ensure that the boat is in fact built to the expected specifications.
American generally do not. Which was the original point raised by
Kenneth McQuage
regards
Arild Jensen
The Electronic Navigator
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