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    Question:
    I had new all-grip put on my 1975 MT 36 in 1997. I have noticed 2 places
    where it is cracked and beginning to come loose from the cabin. Is there any
    way to repair this stuff?
    Mike

    >From:
    >To:
    >
    >Subject: TWL: prop protection for outboards
    >
    > The whaler fleet at the yacht club is going through props
    >again. Since people on the list are often operating their tenders in
    >shallow, often unfamiliar, waters I thought somebody may have
    >evaluated the various products on the market. We need something for
    >our 40 or 50 HP Honda outboards. Something that keeps lines out of
    >the props and protects persons in the water would be nice too.
    > I have seen advertisements for an aftermarket product for
    >Hondas that I believe is called "The Handeler" which is a duct that
    >bolts on to the cavitation plate and special prop. I don't know how
    >well it would work at high speeds. They should be good for low speed
    >thrust. It probably is expensive but I haven't priced it out.
    > I found a similar product at called the Prop Saver
    >
    http://www.cabelas.com/texis/scripts/store/+/CatalogDisplay/displayPOD/Ca=
    >bFALL1998/CabFALL1998AUASAC/IA299T
    >which is considerably cheeper but I would be surprised if the mounting
    >is universal. It also uses a traditional prop.
    > The same manufacturer has a different solution that is a plate
    >to be mounted on the skeg and extend aft below the prop. It may help
    >protect the prop if one runs aground. It doesn't protect swimmers and
    >would allow some lines to be wrapped. The River Runner is at=20
    >http://www.cabelas.com/texis/scripts/store/+/CatalogDisplay/displayPOD/Ca=
    >bFALL1998/CabFALL1998AUASAC/IA299S
    >- ----------------------------------------
    >Ross Fleming >
    >Subject: RE: TWL: Dish TV Coverage Question
    >
    > >===== Original Message From Frank Burrows <
    >
    >Subject: TWL: RE: Re: Sealant for diesel tank inspection port
    >
    >The best product I've ever used is called "the right stuff". Its pricey,
    >but does the job-any job! Auto parts stores have it.
    >
    > Regards...
    >
    >Phil Rosch
    >M/V "Curmudgeon" MT-44TC
    >Current moored in Wakefield, RI
    >
    >
    >Subject: TWL: Re: Sealant for diesel tank inspection port
    >
    > >good
    > >diesel-proof sealant/gasket combination on it when I close it up.
    >
    >I used a combination of a gasket made from Nitrile rubber and
    >"form-a-gasket" #2B (non-hardening) sealant compound. Seems to have worked
    >well.
    >
    >George
    >M/V Ocean Lady
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:22:25 +0100
    >From: "Bent Tolstrup" <

    >Subject: TWL: Paints,
    >
    >Very professional results can be obtained with Sterling, rolled and tipped
    >or
    >brushed.
    >However my personal opinion is that sprayed Awlgrip is a superior product
    >and
    >lasts longer. The major cost, both in time and effort is the prep in any
    >good paint job. The amount of difference between having it professionally
    >sprayed and using a good marine paint vs rolling and tipping/with a less
    >expensive paint is actually very little.
    >There are yards where the owner can do the prep work: dewaxing, sanding,
    >filling with epoxy and then epoxy barrier coat, plus resanding and filling
    >again, then have a professional spray the two or so coats of two part L P
    >paint. This allows the cost savings, yet a final professional spray job.
    >
    >When I did extensive modifications to my Cal 46, the boat had nearly 10
    >year
    >old Awlgrip which was still in good conditon on the hull sides, yet the
    >deck
    >house was badly peeling. We used rolled/brushed sterling on the transom
    >(where extensive modifications were done) and the deck house. The sterling
    >on the transom still looked good in 6 years when I repainted the entire
    >boat.
    > However the deckhouse had again begun to craze and lift. I attributed
    >some
    >of this to poor prep when the boat was first L P ed (and a gel coat which
    >was
    >totally shot after 10 years of charter in the Caribbean). On the repaint
    >all
    >old paint was sanded off and a fair amount of the old gelcoat removed. A
    >number of layers of epoxy primers were sprayed on. It has only been two
    >years, so more time will be necessary to see how it holds up.
    >
    >If you want to do a paint job with Sterling, then try a dinghy first.
    >
    >Barrier coats on SS and bronze:
    > In my experience the metal should be sand blasted and thoroughly
    >cleaned,
    >then a two part epoxy, sich as Interprotect 2000 applied (usually two
    >coats).
    >Certainly other epoxies are used, including West or System three. Again
    >the
    >key is the prep: well sandblasted and cleaned. Other materials such as
    >zinc
    >chromate, rust lock etc do not do well as a primer underwater and at times
    >can set up electrolysis on the surface of the metal. At least three coats
    >of
    >the bottom paints should be applied. Apply alternate coats of different
    >colors, to assure full coverage. Many boats which use this in our area
    >will
    >still have the epoxy in place when they are hauled in two or three years.
    >
    >Bob Austin
    >Symbol 42
    >Pensacola, FL
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:01:41 -0500
    >From: Frank Burrows <
    http://www.kvh.com/ including coverage maps. KVH would
    >probably be a great source to ask which system is better in the Bahamas.
    >
    >I have no idea of what is in the future.
    >
    >Frank
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:41:30 -0500
    >From: Wesley Eldred <
    >Subject: Re: TWL: Dish TV Coverage Question
    >
    >I have friends that use an RCA DSS system at Georgetown's latitude and east
    >of there.
    >
    >Ed Butler
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:53:17 -0500 (EST)
    >From: "Rich Gano" <
    >
    >Subject: TWL: Wakes and Guns
    >
    >A 50-foot Ocean owned by an acquaintance was coming down a relatively
    >lonely
    >stretch of ICW east of Panama City a few years back at or soon after dark.
    >Apparently he unwittingly waked a pier/bassboat combination, and the owner
    >got highly perturbed and jumped in his bassboat, gun in hand, in pursuit.
    >He got alongside and my acquaintance saw his hand with pistol over the
    >gunwale of the bigger boat as this idiot tried to board. Since the Ocean
    >was moving at a pretty good clip, the boarding attempt was unsuccessful,
    >and
    >I think the gun remained aboard. I am not sure they knew just what
    >immediately became of the boarder due to darkness/fright, etc, but they
    >reported to all the appropriate authorities. I think they later arrested
    >the guy. If it had been me, I'd have turned around and made his pay the
    >consequences of such foolish behavior, especially since I'd have his gun.
    >Another time, the situation was turned around when I was anchored bow-in in
    >a very narrow creek leading into one of our local bayous. There were no
    >facilities nor houses up the creek from me, but a jet skier deemed it
    >necessary to come from open water to narrower water right by me at full
    >speed. I was below and came on deck to find water from his vertical tattle
    >tale cooling stream on my deck. From the sound and watery evidence, I'd
    >say
    >he passed 2-3 feet from me, endangering me and my boat. The banks on
    >either
    >side were no more than 20 feet away. Now I don't mind a bit about getting
    >waked by the incompetent dive boats and uncaring charter boats in our area
    >-
    >I give them as good as I get, and I'm careful of those who exhibit some
    >common courtesy in return. But I'll be darned if I'll sit idly by and let
    >somebody recklessly endanger me in such a manner. His actions were
    >tantamount to assault in my eyes. When he came roaring around the bend on
    >his return trip, he found me on the bow pulpit with a loaded and cocked
    >.30-.30 Winchester across my knees. Lately I have been giving some
    >consideration to carving a replica Browning .50 cal machine gun and
    >mounting
    >it on the bow for my trip to south Florida - you know, just to let 'em know
    >my general attitude :). Actually, I have it in mind to pass through
    >congested areas at night. I like night steaming.
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:25:10 EST
    >From:
    >
    >Subject: TWL: Goldstar Radar
    >
    >Does anybody know where I might obtain schematics for a late '70's Goldstar
    >Radar Model GS930? Thanks, Bill
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:32:34 EST
    >From:
    >
    >Subject: TWL: Northwest Passage
    >
    >From: "Bent Tolstrup" <
    >
    >Subject: TWL: Generator
    >
    >Wesley-----------install a filter between the raw water pump and the
    >Xchanger and you will never have to chase impeller parts again, infact
    >those clear plastic filters will tell you if the impeller is breaking up
    >and its time for a change.
    >.
    > Captain Al Pilvinis
    >
    >"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
    >2630 N.E. 41st Street
    >Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
    >Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
    >Email
    http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:52:26 EST
    >From: writes:
    >
    ><< I suppose it would be compatible
    > with my Loof Lirpa designed propellor with holes.
    > >>
    >
    >Hi Larry,
    >
    >Why yes, totally compatible. But why does aLoof Lirpa propellor have
    >holes?
    >And who was Lirpa anyway? Why was he so aloof?
    >
    >By the way, clarifying the confusion is just part of my job here on TWL.
    >I'm
    >pleased to do it for the group as part of my community service time.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >
    >Paul
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:49:19 -0500
    >From: mknott <
    =====
    >
    > >By the way, clarifying the confusion is just part of my job here on TWL.
    >I'm
    > >pleased to do it for the group as part of my community service time.
    > >
    >Paul,
    >
    >Now you have to provide an explanation to the list of why you are required
    >to
    >do comunity service time. What was you crime, Paul? Inquiring minds... or
    >is
    >that nosey shipmates. ;-)
    >
    >Mel Knott
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:02:46 -0800 (PST)
    >From: Mark Richter <
    http://im.yahoo.com/
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:05:46 EST
    >From:
    >writes:
    >
    ><< What was you crime, Paul? >>
    >
    >Persistent speling and gramatical errors, Mel.
    >
    >As to being had, what can I say? It's sad but true. What's the world
    >coming
    >to when guys will take advantage of a fellow's trusting nature to feed him
    >a
    >line of BS? What sort of a guy would treat his Shipmate that way?
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:35:07 -0500
    >From: mknott <
    =====
    > >In a message dated 10/31/00 1:40:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    >
    >
    >Subject: Re: TWL: Re: The real Gjoa?
    >
    >Further research reveals:
    >
    >..................
    >
    >A list of monuments, etc. in Golden Gate Park, San Francisco, as of 1951,
    >include:
    >
    >"Gjoa Sloop: Great Highway, north of Beach Chalet; donated by Norwegian
    >residents
    >of San Francisco through consulate on behalf of Norway; erected in 1909."
    >
    >"Gjoa Plaque Roald Amundsen: Great Highway, north of Beach Chalet; donated
    >by
    >Royal Norwegian Consulate and erected in 1929."
    >
    >..................
    >
    >Amundsen arrived in San Francisco in October, 1906, six months after
    >most of the city had been destroyed in the great earthquake and fire.
    >Where was the Gjoa from 1906 to 1909?
    >
    >I am remembering having seen photographs of the Gjoa landing through
    >the surf at Ocean Beach and being dragged across Great Highway to its
    >home surrounded by cypress trees in Golden Gate Park.
    >
    >..................
    >
    >Here, some historian has renamed the ship. This is undated:
    >
    >"He continued into the Amundsen Gulf to the Beaufort Sea, around the
    >northern
    >coast of Alaska, through the Bering Sea, and finely down the Pacific coast
    >to
    >San Francisco. The ship, the Gjoa Haven, can still be seen there today."
    >
    >..................
    >
    >From "The Saga of St. Roch," by E. Re. Yarham, FRGS, undated:
    >
    >"The three most famous ships to sail in Arctic waters during the past
    >century have been Nansen's Fram, which in 1895 drifted to the then
    >farthest north (85 deg. 57 min.), and which is preserved in Oslo;
    >Amundsen's Gjoa, first vessel to navigate the Northwest Passage
    >(1903-1906), and which is now on display at San Francisco; and the
    >Royal Canadian Police patrol vessel, St. Roch, which has more firsts
    >to its credit than any other polar ship, and which has now become a
    >new Canadian National Historic Site."
    >
    >..................
    >
    >
    http://civiccenter.ci.sf.ca.us/recpark/Image.nsf/Images+not+categorized/?SearchView&Query=Boating
    >
    >Adding to the mystery, this page includes photographs of Amundsen
    >standing in front of the Gjoa, in Golden Gate Park, in 1927;
    >
    >several photographs of the Gjoa in Golden Gate Park, 1939;
    >
    >and finally several photographs of the "removal" of the Gjoa,
    >using a crane and a flatbed truck, on All Fool's Day, 1972!
    >
    >Removal to where? How long has the ship been in Oslo?
    >
    >This seems to be the answer, but someone will have to translate
    >it: "I april 1909 ble Gjøa skjenket til San Francisco av en
    >norskamerikansk komité og plassert i Golden Gate
    >Park. I 1972 ble den brakt til Oslo og står nå ved Sjøfartsmuseet."
    >
    >Bob
    >
    >
    >- ------------------------------------------------------
    >Bob Conrich http://www.ai/bob
    >Anguilla Tel: 264 497 2505
    >British West Indies
    >- ------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:01:45 -0500
    >From: "Andrew Woods" <
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:32:17 -0800
    >From:
    >
    >Subject: TWL: Hi from the Rappahonnock
    >
    >Hi, we are in Deltaville, Virginia. We have been stuck at Smith Point and
    >now here for the last 3 or 4 days because the strong northwest winds are
    >churning up the Chesapeake too much for us.
    >
    >We have found time to update the web page, which now includes photos from
    >Lake Ontario and the Erie Canal. Please visit at
    >
    >
    http://www.indiscipline.org
    >
    >Click on Cruise 2000 and the new sections are for Lake Ontario and Lake
    >Erie. Spike is working on New York and New Jersey and that section will be
    >done soon. If the rough weather continues, we will be updating the
    >Chesapeake Bay section as well!
    >
    >We really enjoyed our voyage up the Potomac to Washington DC and had a
    >great time at the museums. On the trip down we anchored out a couple of
    >times. The Virginia back creeks are especially calm and beautiful this
    >time of the year. If we can sneak by the last 50 miles of The Bay we will
    >enter the Atlantic ICW nearly on our original schedule.
    >
    >Please visit and we are looking forward to hearing from you!
    >
    >- -JimB
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:08:12 -0500
    >From: "Chris Mangin" <>
    > > > (wrote the deposit check for the boat on Saturday)
    > > OK - so what will "Silverheels IV" be?
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:04:06 -0500
    >From: "Terry Hoy" <
    >
    >Subject: TWL: Re: Using 2-part paint
    >
    >Hi Anne & Bob,
    >You wrote:
    >Has anyone had experience using a linear polyurathane brushing system
    >(such
    >as Sterling) on their boaat? Please give us your experience.
    >
    >Anne & Bob
    >45' CHB in Port Townsend, WA
    >
    > Yes, I used Sterling this spring for some work on the boat. It is
    >expensive if you only need to do a little. But still better than having it
    >sprayed. Sterling advertises that it is especially formulated for
    >brushing. The people at Sterling were very helpful when I called for info
    >and really wanted the job to be sucessful when I bought it. Be sure to buy
    >all theneeded extras.
    > The job came out beautifully. The first coat left some to be desired and
    >the second had a holiday (my fault), but otherwise looked fine. Third time
    >was a charm. Too bad I goofed on the second. The Sterling people describe
    >the paint as "stretching" flat and it really seemed to. No brushmarks ( I
    >have had brushmarks after the Interthane paint). Part of what I painted
    >was the body of my anchor winch. Only one small nick on the corner when a
    >shackle hit it. Otherwise no abrasion at all after three months with a lot
    >of anchoring.
    > I would recommend the Sterling, but get all their additives and follow the
    >directions to the letter. BTY, Sterling will send you a lot of info about
    >how to use the product if you call and ask.
    >
    >Bill
    >
    >
    >
    >Bill Russell
    >N. Kingstown, RI
    >Pacific Trawler 37
    >"Harbour Reach"
    >401-294-2933
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:07:59 -0500
    >From: Frank Timpano <
    wrote:
    > >I am currently specifying electronics for a new vessel and considering an
    > >AMCS satellite communications system. There are two on the market that
    >are
    > >designed for marine use -- the KVH K3, which is about $2K, and the
    > >Westinghouse Wavetalk, which is about $4K. The Wavetalk has a slightly
    > >smaller antenna. The Westinghouse system is more widely used, but mostly
    > >in land-based applications such as long-haul truckers.
    > >
    > >I would be interested in receiving comments about either system (on or
    >off
    > >the list) from list participants.
    > >
    > >Scott Hallquist
    > >MV Makai (Nordhavn 50, hull #15).
    > >Seattle
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:24:49 EST
    >From: Mike & Kym Eedy <

    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >End of trawler-world-list V4 #122
    >*********************************
    >

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