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From: Dave Weilacher (no email)
Date: Sun May 14 2006 - 13:10:47 EDT

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    How about:

    Take a carpenters level and set it level at your height of eye.

    Take a straight edge laid alongside the carpenters level and pointed at the distant shore.

    Measure that angle. Use the compass rose from a universal plotting sheet.

    Wouldn't that be dip?

    -----Original Message-----
    >From: Alexandre E Eremenko <>
    >Sent: May 14, 2006 9:31 AM
    >To:
    >Subject: Re: your mail
    >
    >Dear Roger,
    >Welcome to the list.
    >
    >> The first question I have is: I live on a hill overlooking the ocean
    >> but dont know my elevation to set the dip.
    >
    >There are several ways to do it.
    >1. Ask a friend who has a GPS to measure your altitude. My experience
    >shows that sometimes GPS gives errors up to 50 meters in altitude,
    >but usually it is OK.
    >(In the US, you do not even need a friend with GPS for this.
    >Just go to the department store, buy one, measure your altitude and then
    >return the GPS:-)
    >2. Take several Sun sights.
    >Take them with real horizon first, then with artificial
    >horizon. This method is not very precise though; you have to
    >take many sights and average them. You also have to determine
    >your index correction very precisely and to choose the time when the
    >real horizon is very sharp.
    >3. You say that you have a precise map of your neighborhood.
    >I suppose that this map does not show elevation of your house,
    >otherwise the problem would be trivial.
    >Now it depends on what you really see from your location.
    >Perhaps you can see some well defined shore line, or a building roof,
    >or any other horizontal line perpendiculat to the
    >line of your sight whose location and
    >distance
    >you can
    >determine from the map. Then measure the Sun's altitude against this
    >line.
    >4. Everything depends on the circumstances, on what you can really
    >see. For example, if you can see your house from the shore,
    >and the hill is really steep, you can try to measure the altitude
    >of your house roof from the shore using artificial horizon.
    >5. If you can see the horizon from your location in TWO OPPOSITE
    >directions, you can try a back sight (with some object in the sky
    >whose altitude is more than 60d. On your latitude, Sun can be used.
    >(I really envy your location if it permits you to do this:-)
    >6. The problem becomes much easier (and the solution more precise)
    >if you can use any surveying instrument (surveyors level, theodolite)
    >with a precise bubble level.
    >
    >Alex.
    >P.S. If needed, I can supply a formula for each case listed above,
    >or any other measurement you choose to try.

    Dave Weilacher
    .IBM AS400 RPG Senior Programmer Analyst/Project Leader
    .USCG Master lic. 100 ton
    .ASA Sailing Instructor Evaluator


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