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From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Tue Apr 11 2006 - 22:10:00 EDT
George H, you wrote:
"Of course there may be others I have missed; if so, I am unlikely to find
out."
Yep. It's an intermittent bug --the worst kind from a debugging perspective.
I don't think Dan Hogan can really do anything about this. The guy who runs
webkahuna may not be able to figure it out either. I've managed two Internet
lists. Both were years ago, and I'm not claiming any technical expertise
here, but I've never seen anything like these strange problems on Navigation-L.
And:
"I have to admit, somewhat reluctantly, that Frank may be right. It may make
sense to jump ship, into the vessel that he has provided; imperfect though
those arrangements may be."
Well, you'll never know unless you try! www.fer3.com/NavList . By the way,
the "vessel" is provided by google.com. Forty-five people have signed up so
far. Just under half of the people I sent direct invitations to have joined.
About twenty learned of the list indirectly. If anyone reading this did not
receive a direct invitation, it was only because I did not spot your e-mail
address in recent messages (which was the only method available to me at the
time).
By the way, Robert Gainer expressed concern about becoming a spam target by
signing up for a list through google. This is a serious concern, and I have
given it a lot of thought and I've done some web research, too. Short answer:
google's masking system makes it very unlikely that automated software will
be able to steal web addresses. Google as a corporate entity has no reason
whatsoever to sell e-mail addresses since their monetary value is trivial, and
the impact on google's reputation from doing so would be severe.
The biggest danger to anyone's e-mail address is when it is listed on a web
site in an "unmasked" form. When that happens, it will almost inevitably make
its way onto a spam list since these are usually generated by sifting
through web sites and postings to public lists (Usenet, e.g.) for any strings with
the format of an e-mail address. Your best defense against this is to search
the net for your address occasionally. Take your complete e-mail address, put
it in quotes, and google it. You may be surprised! Give it a try.
Of course, anyone can sign up for any mailing list, like Nav-L, and dump all
the messages for a few months to simple software that extracts e-mail
addresses. It's easy, and you would never know how it occurred. So there's no
guarantee that your e-mail address is safe from spam targeting. This hasn't
happened to this list (or does not appear to have happened) simply because this is
a small group and e-mail addresses have very low monetary value.
-FER
42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars
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