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Robert:
No, sorry I don't have a back-up archive.
Dan
> [Original Message]
> From: Robert Gainer <>
> To: <>
> Date: 4/4/2006 3:33:49 PM
> Subject: Re: NAV-L vs. Google NavList
>
> Dan,
> I enjoy the list and find the archive great reading. In fact I wish I
had a copy of the archive on my laptop so that I could read it at home. I
live on my boat in the summertime and don’t have Internet after I leave
work. Do you have the archive in a way that you can send me a copy? How do
you search it? Do you use a database program setup as a front end?
> Thanks,
> Robert Gainer
>
> >
> > From: Dan Allen <>
> > Date: 2006/04/04 Tue PM 05:37:44 EDT
> > To:
> > Subject: NAV-L vs. Google NavList
> >
> > (* Reposted to NAV-L *)
> >
> > On 4 Apr 2006, at 10:27 AM, George Huxtable wrote:
> >
> > > With Frank in charge, I fear it would be like playing a game of
> > > street football, when the other side owns the ball.
> > >
> > > I am going to need more persuading, before venturing into this new
> > > lifeboat, until certain that the old familiar vessel is actually
> > > sinking, not just suffering a temporary breakdown.
> >
> > I understand your concern George. If NAV-L has just had a minor
> > problem and will return to reliable service, I do not know if we
> > really need a Google Group.
> >
> > However, if NAV-L support is not long for this world, then we do need
> > to jump ship to something that will last into the future.
> >
> > I think Frank did the prudent thing: he created a list to get it
> > going as a backup. He took action. I like that about Frank. If NAV-
> > L was down, how was Frank going to bring it up for discussion on the
> > list? He couldn't. But he could get something else going, which he
> > accomplished.
> >
> > The hard question is this: is NAV-L under Dan Hogan's excellent care
> > finished? If so, I say we all move to the Google NavList group and
> > move on. However, I do not know if this is the case or not. It does
> > appear that I have been getting NAV-L messages the past couple of
> > days, but I think the real issue is the list archives.
> >
> > It seems to me the decision revolves around the list archives. I
> > personally never use the list archives because I have my own copy of
> > every mail since July of 1997. I just search through it all on my
> > own machine. My archive is local and does not depend upon a website.
> >
> > Of course new members need the list archives, as do many others. If
> > the NAV-L list archive is gone for good, perhaps a move to Google's
> > group should happen. On April 1st, 2006 Dan Hogan wrote on NAV-L:
> >
> > "Well I don't know of any servers that will accept our archives. So
> > I am open to suggestions."
> >
> > Frank tried Google Groups as a proof of concept. Most (all?) of us
> > have never created a group or tried to get one going. I want to
> > thank Frank Reed for taking the initiative and his time to provide a
> > possible solution. Now we need to determine if we should all move to
> > it and embrace it and move forward, or someone else should propose a
> > different solution - and do the work of getting that solution going.
> > Until somebody else can provide as much as Frank has provided, I do
> > not think there is much to recommend hanging on to the NAV-L list,
> > and I think there is a lot to recommend us moving to the NavList on
> > Google Groups.
> >
> > Comments? Proposals? Solutions? They are all welcomed of course.
> >
> > Dan Allen
> >
