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From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Mon Apr 03 2006 - 19:09:21 EDT
NavList
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This list is a descendant of Navigation-L, a mailing list which has been
managed with great success and skill by Dan Hogan for several years. Due to some
technical problems with that list, it seems like a good idea to start a new
one using Google's Groups system (which is itself a descendant of "Usenet").
This is a highly reliable system by an organization which is likely to be
around for the long term.
To join the list, send an e-mail to
To leave the list, send an e-mail to
Note that the subject and body of the e-mail for subscribe and unsubscribe
requests may be left blank. Requests will be followed by an automated
confirmation request that will ask you to visit a rather long URL at google. Visit
that URL and you're in. You can also drop me an e-mail and I can subscribe or
unsubscribe you by hand.
NavList and other google groups can be accessed via e-mail, like any
traditional "listserv" e-mail list, or it may be accessed via a newsreader-style web
interface on google's web site here:
http://groups.google.com/group/NavList
Bookmark this address! This is the easiest way to follow the list. When you
visit the web interface, enter your e-mail address and select a password to
edit settings for your membership to the list. The web interface is extremely
convenient, but, like anything, it takes a little getting used to. Through
the web interface, you can directly view current messages and message archives.
Google has extensive experience managing and maintaining long-term group
message archives.
The intended purpose of this discussion group is essentially the same as
Navigation-L. At the web interface page for NavList, you will find this
description: "Discussions of Celestial Navigation, Traditional Marine Navigation,
History of Navigation, GPS and Traditional Navigation, Terrestrial Mapping and
Exploration, Determination of Latitude and Longitude, and Positional
Astronomy." Please use normal etiquette in deciding whether side-discussions are
off-topic.
NavList permits message attachments, and these may be viewed very
conveniently through the google web interface for the list above. I do not know whether
attachments are archived on a long-term basis. Text and HTML attachments are
automatically expanded. Image attachments appear as a convenient thumbnail
which may be expanded or downloaded as desired. Please exercise reasonable
etiquette when using attachments. They should be relevant, and they should be
smaller than 50k when possible. Since attachments may be viewed as thumbnails,
members of this group who are concerned about bandwidth limits for e-mail may
find the web interface preferable to the older mailing list approach to this
discussion group.
Messages on NavList may be deleted from the archive by their authors. Please
use this function sparingly, and note that it only affects messages seen
through the web interface and message archive. E-mail copies of messages cannot
be unsent using this function.
A note on list ownership:
A list "owner" has certain special powers such as the ability to delete
messages and temporarily block abusive members. But these powers are extremely
limited, easily circumvented, and there is no real "ownership" involved.
Nonetheless, I understand that some people will be concerned that this new list is
an attempt to usurp ownership of the older list Navigation-L. I would like to
enlist between three and five other members of the list as "owners" as well,
so that the ownership powers, limited though they are, are distributed.
Certainly, I would like to make Dan Hogan a co-owner. Any other volunteers?
-FER
42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars
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