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Re: NavL archive

From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Sun Apr 02 2006 - 01:14:31 EST

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    Robert Gainer asked:
    "If the opportunity arrives to host the list elsewhere what features do you
    think we should have?"

    Some items for a wishlist:
    1) A message forum based version of the list in addition to the e-mail-based
    version. So, for example, if you're away from your primary e-mail machine,
    you could post a reply from any device with internet access (and a simple web
    browser). I am looking forward to the day when I can type out a two page
    message to Navigation-L from my cell phone <g>. Seriously, there have been
    numerous times when I've gone to the archive, looked at a message and thought to
    myself, I wish I could type out a reply right here. One would need to arrange a
    time limit (no replies after thirty days without starting a new thread, for
    example).
    2) A simple method for handling attachments that automatically places a link
    in transmitted messages to image/binary/data files which are automatically
    stored centrally. This would be the best of both worlds, imo. Attachments
    could be sent as desired, with netiquette as a controlling influence, but those
    who don't want to see them would simply skip over the link in the e-mail
    message.
    3) Complete archives, searchable, like the present archives at irbs.com.
    Preferably these would be mirrored.
    4) A copyright policy. On academic lists (e.g. H-Maritime ...look it up if
    it sounds intriguing), there is a simple policy guaranteeing copyright to the
    authors of posts with the understanding that quoting under appropriate
    circumstances is always allowed.
    5) HTML on/off settings, selectable by the subscriber. These days, it's
    almost harder to turn OFF html in e-mail than to turn it on. The listserv itself
    ought to be able to re-format messages for those recipients who do not want
    to see any HT-marked up messages. This is similar to what happens in the
    archive at irbs.com right now. Messages are formatted as plain text.
    6) A million gold coins. Hmm... perhaps I should have asked the genie for
    the gold coins earlier on my wishlist. <g> The trouble with most of the items
    on my list is that they are rather involved programming projects. They're in
    the "wouldn't it be nice" category. So I'll close out my wish list by saying
    that the MAIN item on my wish list is a reliable list archive. Everything else
    can wait indefinitely.

    And:
    "What are the members of the list willing to pay (if anything) to set it up?"

    I think a subscription fee would rapidly kill off this list. But certain
    individuals among us, myself included, would probably be willing to help out. I
    think it is VERY likely though that the total cost could be kept very close
    to zero.

    And:
    " Is any one willing to contribute time to help transfer the archive or
    whatever else is required."

    Yes.

    And:
    " Does a copy of the archive exist in a form that we can use to set up a
    replacement?"

    Yes.

    And:
    "Dan has a web page now, in the best of all possible worlds should that be
    the opening page for the archive? We can have links to other pages of interest
    to us, who wants to maintain that?"

    I think that it would be best to try to find some organization, like a
    museum (no, not Mystic) or university that would host the main page. Dan H. would
    still "own it".

    -FER
    42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
    www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars


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