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Re: Universe of the ancient Greeks.

From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Tue Mar 14 2006 - 02:34:46 EST

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    Bill, you wrote:
    "That whole circle/sphere/uniform motion ran through Copernicus, and
    partially through Kepler et al."

    Have I got a trick for you. If you give me any graph of any physical
    phenomenon whatsoever, I can write a representation of it in terms of a series of
    uniform circular motions having various amplitudes and frequencies. Cool, huh?
    [just to be careful here, a system of epicycles is analogous to, but not
    equivalent to, a Fourier analysis]

    And:
    " Problem being, no math or physics, and only approximate measurements, to
    prove/disprove theories. Not dissimilar to the state we can still find
    "advanced" physics
    in, IMHO."

    There would be no major, lasting advance in theories of the Solar System
    until telescopes were invented and evidence could test the competing models.

    I agree with you (assuming I've understood you) that fundamental physics is
    in a similar bind today. Physics works perfectly. There is no conflict with
    experiment or observation. And until there is, who can say whether things like
    string theory/brane theory etc have more in common with the Ptolemaic system
    of the Copernican one. Without the test of experiment, we are at a
    standstill, and the subject slowly degenerates. [<begin rant mode>speaking of
    degenerating physics, and I apologize for being way off-topic now (e-mail me
    off-list if this interests you), did anyone see the stories recently about a
    discovery of "antigravity" in a "new solution" of the field equations of general
    relativity?? holy cow, any incompetent twit can claim to be a physicist today!
    <end rant mode>]

    -FER
    42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
    www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars


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