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Re: Simple celestial navigation in 1897

From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Tue Mar 14 2006 - 01:12:33 EST

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    George H, you wrote:
    "It's Layton (faithfully copied by Walden) who confusingly uses those "
    symbols to separate the parts of an angle, rather than the conventional symbols
    for degrees, minutes, and seconds."

    It wasn't confusing to Layton! In fact, it was quite common to write angles
    this way (with dots or double dots as separators) in the 19th century.

    Regarding Layton's interpolation of Sun declination, you wrote:
    "But his procedure for interpolating seems remarkably ham-handed."

    I hope my earlier posting convinced you that it wasn't unusual, let alone
    ham-handed, but I've had another thought. From a post-20th century perspective,
    we're accustomed to interpolating for declination based on chronometer time
    (GMT), but the 19th century approach was oriented towards local time and
    specifically Local Apparent Time. So a navigator would look up the declination
    for Greenwich Apparent Noon, adjust for his longitude to get the declination
    for Local Apparent Noon and then adjust to the time on his watch (which would
    have been set to local time). Naturally since the ship is moving, this
    declination is not as good as what you would get by going straight off the GMT, but
    the difference was not important from a practical standpoint.

    Regarding the logarithmic calculation of the time sight (to determine Local
    Apparent Time), you wrote:
    "What Layton has done is this- Being completely familiar with that
    calculation, which he has gone through day after day, he has a good idea of the sort
    of time interval that will result. He knows, without doing any calculation,
    that the log hav of the result will always be somewhere in the range between
    about 8.7 and 9.7. So he simply ignores those numbers preceding the decimal
    point (and the decimal point itself) in his calculation. He concentrates
    entirely on the numbers that follow thedecimal point, knowing that he can guess the
    other part from his experience. It saves a few seconds in the calculation."

    Another thing worth remembering here is that the result of the time sight is
    already known within 15 minutes or so. After all, this sight is just telling
    us the local time. And we know that more or less from the time of the noon
    sight which is probably when everyone's watches would have been set. That is,
    when you take the time sight, you write down your best estimate of local time
    from your watch. When you work the calculation, you know that the answer is
    going to be very close to the time you've written down.

    -FER
    42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
    www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars


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