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Re: dip, dip short, distance off with buildings, etc.

From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Wed Jan 11 2006 - 01:01:28 EST

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    George H, you wrote:
    "That's a perfectly valid way to assess refraction, but not a particularly
    new one."

    Oh, of course. Let's be clear -- all of this was worked out a very long time
    ago. Terrestrial refraction was a serious practical problem for terrestrial
    survey work and many people probably wrote about it (I've never looked into
    it), and to that extent, there is nothing new under the Sun! But it's
    certainly new to this list as far as I am aware.

    Just about one year ago, there was a rather long discussion where people
    were trying to puzzle out the origin of the equation underlying Bowditch's Table
    XV. It didn't interest me at the time, but it does now. No one seemed to
    know how to derive it last year or, more importantly, assess its limitations.
    What I am saying is that this simple technique of changing the curvature of the
    Earth can be used to analyze not just Table XV [see my reply to Bill] but
    everything else where terrestrial refraction impacts navigation. For example,
    consider "anomalous dip". The primary source of dip anomalies (though not the
    only source) is the variation in the scale height in the layer of the
    atmophere close to the ocean which in turn changes the effective curvature of the
    Earth. If I calculate dip based on a lapse rate of -6.5 deg per kilometer
    (implying a scale height of about 10km), I find that the dip at 5 meters height of
    eye is 3.9 minutes of arc. If instead the lapse rate is -34.1 deg/km, the
    atmosphere has constant density and the dip is exactly equal to the geometric
    value which 4.3 minutes of arc. And if the lapse rate is +25deg/km, then the
    dip at 5 meters if 3.4 minutes of arc. Naturally a calculation like this
    assumes that the lapse rate is constant and the atmosphere is more or less the
    same on the whole path from horizon to observer (so it can't handle really
    exotic refraction, like mirages).

    There's also a conceptual aspect to this. Next time you're looking at a
    distant ocean scene with a few boats off in the distance, perhaps a lighthouse,
    and beyond the horizon some low hills of an island, ask yourself how the scene
    would change if the Earth's curvature were a little greater or a little
    less. That's exactly what you would see under conditions of variable refraction.
    A temperature inversion would lift the distant hills just as if the Earth was
    nearly flat. Note that this sort of analysis does not apply to distant
    objects that are higher than a few hundred meters (so no mountains) and it has the
    same limitations that I mentioned above, but it covers a very large portion
    of the possible variation in refraction.

    Finally, the practical value of this is not that we can start calculating
    dip and all the rest based on the specific temperature profile since, of
    course, we don't usually have access to the temperature profile. Instead it
    provides a means of assessing possible errors arising from using the tables
    "naively", and it leaves open the option of calculating different versions of the
    tables when circumstances might require them.

    -FER
    42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
    www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars


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