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Re: Venus

From: Bill (no email)
Date: Thu Dec 08 2005 - 17:30:57 EST

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    >> Does anyone know the Apparent diameter of Venus viewed from the central USA

    > On 2005-12-08 00:00 UT1
    >
    > Diameter 40.1"
    > Phase Angle 117 deg (...meaning that less than half of the diameter
    > is illuminated)
    > Phase 0.27

    George and Herbert

    Thank you for your replies. Given the apparent size, and guess that only
    26% of the right side is illuminated, it could make lunars with Venus very
    interesting.

    Herbert: Did you calculate your results, or is there a web site to look up
    such information? It would look like the 0.26 phase may correspond to the
    area illuminated?

    I'm at a loss at how one derives illumination from the 117d figure. Any
    help would be appreciated.

    I also wonder, if like the moon, the line/arc between illuminated and dark
    portions can be other than vertical. If so, where can one find/determine
    that information?

    OPTIONAL READING <G>

    I did find that maximum eastern elongation was on Nov 3 2005 at 47d.
    Inferior conjunction will occur on January 13. Using that I was a able to
    roughly calculate the angle between earth, the sun, and Venus on the 6th.
    Using 93,000,000 earth to sun, and 67,000,000 Venus to sun I calculated the
    earth-Venus distance. Using 7521 as Venus diameter I calculated 38.5d as
    apparent diameter. I am guesstimating about 25% of the surface was
    illuminated. A long way to go ;-)

    It was an interesting exercise. Once a had an estimate of Venus's daily
    (earth day) angular velocity relative to earth, and earth's angular velocity
    relative to the sun, I added the two and calculated Venus's velocity and
    year length (in Earth days). Came up with 218.5 days, so close considering
    I was playing slop pool.

    Thanks again

    bill


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