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Re: suggestion for a satisfactory celnav narrative

From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Sat Jun 04 2005 - 20:42:25 EDT

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    George H wrote:
    "But why, in this age, does a mariner still ask for separate determinations
    of latitude and longitude? It's as if we were still stuck in the early
    1800s, and Sumner and St Hilaire had never invented position lines."

    A little ironic, no?

    Why, in this age, does a mariner still ask how celestial navigation works?
    It's as if we were still stuck in the 1970s, and GPS has not been
    commercialized yet.

    Or how about this variant:
    Why, in this age, does a mariner still ask how lunar distance observations
    might work? It's as if we're still stuck...

    Well... you get the idea!

    And:
    "Why not just measure two altitudes of the Sun, at any old times, but times
    which
    are well separated so that the Sun's azimuth has changed significantly
    between them. Then draw a couple of position lines from some assumed
    position, allow for vessel's run in the interval, see where they cross, and
    that's where you are, in lat and long. Simple as that. Applies to any sight
    of any body at any time: a universal way of doing the job. Who needs
    anything different? "

    That's a ten-week course of work and frequent repetition required to keep up
    the skill. By contrast lat/lon by noon sun is something that can be learned
    and re-learned in an afternoon. It's not quite as accurate (does that matter?
    depends on what you're trying to achieve) as full-blown celestial navigation,
     but fewer and fewer students are interested in toiling over the details of
    the Nautical Almanac's interpolation tables and the tedious study of H.O. 229
    or other sight reduction tables. They wanna play with their sextants and
    figure out where they are in the fewest possible steps (just in case something
    bad happens to GPS). Of course, there are still plenty of others who want to
    learn the complete methods of "apex celestial navigation" because that suits
    their personal goals and interests. We're even getting to the point where
    people are studying it out of historical interest...

    -FER
    42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
    www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars


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