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Thank you Robert.
Maybe a good first step might be... starting a nomination process for
project coordinator since, happily, a number of people now have
volunteered in one way or another.
Appreciatively,
Courtney
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 15:08, Robert Gainer wrote:
> I think the project is worth doing, but I dont have the skill set required
> to help much with the knowledge base. I will however contribute server space
> and setup help if that will get this started. I am already contributing
> server space to Dan Hogan and his Nav-L web page.
>
> Maybe this can all be combined into one project on the Nav-L page. Jim
> Thompson has what I think is an excellent website in the form of study notes
> that he has posted, maybe that can be the start of the text, or maybe that
> can be the text and it may stay at his site and links can be established to
> his work at other sites such as the Nav-L page. All of that is of course up
> to Jim Thompson and Dan Hogan.
>
> I am open to suggestions as to how this should be pursued, I am willing to
> spend some time, and money to accomplish what is decided by the consensus of
> the group.
> Robert Gainer
>
>
> >From: John Kabel <>
> >Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List <>
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: suggestion for a satisfactory celnav narrative
> >Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:56:19 -0400
> >
> >As another cynic, but still full of energy, I suggested the Wikipedia
> >approach in an e-mail a few days ago. That is one way I am prepared to
> >contribute. The other way would be an effort supported on a dedicated
> >server that this group can work with. I am not competent to set up a
> >multi-
> >authored document on a server, my own or anyone else's. If someone were to
> >set it up, and identify to the group the ground rules and the access
> >mechanism, I would again contribute what I could. I think the Wiki type of
> >software could be used for that. Does the foregoing reduce me to half a
> >cycnic??
> >
> >John Kabel, SN
> >London, Ontario
> >
> > > Andrew Corl wrote-
> > >
> > > >For Courtney, I am raising my hand to help with this. Don't know what
> >I
> > > >can do but here is a list of techniques I feel should be in the manual:
> > > >Dead Reckoning Latitude by Noon Sun Longitude using a shortwave radio
> >and
> > > >the noon sun Sextant operation and how to determine the elevation above
> >the
> > > >horizon of the sun, moon, star, and planet Sight reduction using H.O.
> >249 -
> > > >method I am presently learning Sight reduction doing all the math (the
> > > >"apex of celestial navigation" according to Frank)
> > >
> > > As a world-weary old cynic, my opinion is that any offer, saying "this
> >is
> > > how I think it should be done, and I'm prepared to contribute" is worth
> >at
> > > least 10 proposals of "this is how I think it should be done, but by
> >someone
> > > else, not by me". So Andrew's suggestions are indeed useful.
> > >
> > > No doubt, he expected a bit of nitpicking about his choice of topics,
> >and I
> > > am happy to provide it. It relates to his suggested topic- "Longitude
> >using
> > > a shortwave radio and the noon sun"
> > >
> > > Although proposals for timing the moment of noon, by observing the Sun
> > > around noon, reappear on this list at regrettably regular intervals, the
> > > fact remains that noon is the worst possible moment for doing that job.
> > > Although it's possible to make a crude assessment of the moment-of-noon
> >by
> > > making an extended set of observations, before noon and after, the only
> >way
> > > to get a PRECISE value of time-by-the-Sun (and hence longitude) is to do
> >so
> > > at a time WELL AWAY from noon, so that the Sun is rising and falling at
> >a
> > > measurable rate. If Andrew were to rephrase his suggestion to read
> >instead-
> > > "Longitude using a shortwave radio and a time-sight of the Sun", then I,
> >for
> > > one, would be happy.
> > >
> > > George.
> > >
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