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Re: "A Star To Steer Her BY" -- I don't think it's so bad

From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Thu Feb 03 2005 - 18:04:13 EST

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    Ken, you wrote:
    "I feel that the reason many people have trouble REMEMBERING how celestial
    navigation works after once having learned it (and most people do), is that
    they have not worked through the abstractness of the concept, which is best
    accomplished through reflection on what is really happening."

    Possibly. Figuring out why users forget a skill is a difficult and complex
    task. There are as many answers as there are students. Some people simply have
    bad long-term memories. Others have good memories but specifically suited to
    visual imagery (they love diagrams and probably are more comfortable with the
     correct geometry over the flagpole/lighthouse analogy). Many others have
    good memories suited to text and verbal mnemonics. These are the people who
    remember how to get to a destination (grandma's house) by a list of verbal
    instructions (turn left at the blue house) while the people with visual memory
    usually picture some sort of map overview. In navigation, there are many users
    whose favorite memories while learning the subject are of mnemonic rhymes and
    word games: "if it's on, it's off" for example. To the topic at hand, I am
    confident that there are plenty of students who benefit from the
    flagpole/lighthouse explanation because it suits their particular memory style. And that's
    good enough for me.

    And you wrote:
    " As we know, unique positions can only be determined on a curved surface,
    and never on a flat one (except for space celestial of course)."

    If you have stars at short distances (lights on top of flagpoles) then you
    can get circles of position and fixes on an idealized flat surface just like
    the standard celestial case. This geometry "maps" to the curved case
    one-to-one. You can think of it this way. There are two extreme cases of possible
    geometries:
    1) stars at infinite distance, surface of finite radius of curvature.
    2) stars at finite distance, surface of infinite radius of curvature (a flat
    plane).

    Both idealized situations yield many of the same principles -- circles of
    position, GP is where star is straight up, altitudes increase towards GP, fixes
    with two possible locations for two circles of position, three circles yield
    a single-point fix, etc. They differ in mathematical details, especially the
    relationship between distance from the GP and change in altitude.

    I DO agree that there are teaching situations where you might get better
    results by teaching from extreme case 1 and completely ignoring the "lighthouse"
    analogy, but let's bear in mind that stars at infinite distance and a
    spherical earth are idealizations, too.

    -FER
    42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W.
    www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars


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