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Re: CelNav without sextants

From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Mon Nov 08 2004 - 01:57:30 EST

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    Alex E asked:
    "Which one in Perseus? Beta, Epsilon?"

    Algol = Beta Persei

    And:
    "What does it mean "eclipsing binary star"? Sometimes you see one star,
    sometimes two?"

    Yes, but they're so close together that they cannot be resolved in ordinary
    telescopes. All you see is a cyclic drop in brightness. As one star passes in
    front of the other, even if it's smaller, the net light from the system sent
    our way decreases. The star is like a light house, blinking at us every three
    days. Algol is the prototype of the eclipsing binary. Some eclipsing binaries
    visible in small telescopes have considerably sharper eclipses that would allow
    an observer to get UT (conceivably) within five minutes or better.

    And:
    "How long are the eclipses, and what is the exact period (you only give to m
    inutes, this is not enough to predict for a whole year. One needs to seconds at
    least)."

    The rules I gave would allow you to predict eclipses to the nearest couple of
    minutes for some years into the future (the rule that you subtract another
    minute every seven weeks amounts to giving the orbital period accurate to about
    one part in 100,000). The eclipses last something like ten hours, if memory
    serves. A visual observer can get the time of minimum accurate to about half an
    hour without instruments. Not awful for finding longitude, but not much better
    than awful. Again, before some tells me this is totally impractical, yes, I
    know. This is in the spirit of a "game".

    By the way, the seasonal rule, +/- 7 minutes in certain months, arises from
    the finite speed of light. The Earth is something like 250 million kilometers
    further from Algol around May 20th than it is on November 20th.

    And:
    "If these eclipses are seen with a naked eye, they should be known since
    antiquity."

    Perhaps surprisingly, it is unlikely that Algol's highly predictable eclipses
    were known before 1782 though its variability was discovered earlier. Here's
    an article I found that discusses some of the history and the astronomy, too:
    http://www.surveyor.in-berlin.de/himmel/Bios/Goodricke-e.html

    And asked:
    "Has anyone ever proposed to use it for longitude?"

    Probably not in any formal sense! Eclipsing binaries were discovered a few
    decades too late for the early historical discussions of longitude (fully 15
    years after the publication of the lunar distance tables in the Nautical
    Almanac). I would imagine the concept has occurred to many people, but I doubt there's
    ever been any reason to put it in print. Incidentally, some years ago, there
    was a proposal briefly to re-define time standards in terms of pulsar
    observations. This would be roughly equivalent to using variable stars like Algol to
    get an absolute time standard, but of an entirely different level of accuracy
    and requiring the highest end astronomical equipment for observations.

    Frank R
    [ ] Mystic, Connecticut
    [X] Chicago, Illinois


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