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Re: Tallow, was: Voyaging the traditional way

From: Dan Hogan (no email)
Date: Sun Nov 07 2004 - 12:06:18 EST

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    Trevor:

    Try automobile wheel bearing grease. It is a little thicker than Tallow I
    think but works for picking up bottom samples.

    Dan Hogan

    Navigation-L: http://www.offsoundings.info/navl.html

    > [Original Message]
    > From: Trevor J. Kenchington <>
    > To: <>
    > Date: 11/6/2004 5:00:11 PM
    > Subject: Tallow, was: Voyaging the traditional way
    >
    > Belated thanks to Peter, Jared and Bill for their suggestions, however:
    >
    > I'm not sure that lanolin would be much of a substitute for tallow. My
    > impression (which may well be wrong) is that lanolin has much lower
    > viscosity -- if that is the right term to use for a grease. In any case,
    > I am no closer to having a supplier for that than one for tallow.
    >
    > Same for Crisco and other shortenings. They also share with peanut
    > butter the tendency to go rancid rather quickly: Not something I really
    > want smeared across my boat's spars. Suet is, of course, either raw
    > animal fat or perhaps fat melted once and allowed to solidify. The
    > latter would be a step towards tallow but not, I suspect, tallow itself.
    >
    > Various mineral greases, of varied consistencies, are available of
    > course. But I don't think they would be very compatible with leather
    > chafing gear. I'm looking for the organic alternative.
    >
    > And Bill: Yes, tallow candles were once used by anyone who could not
    > afford spermaceti but I would be very surprised if anyone outside
    > museums and historic re-enactment societies deals with such awful things
    > today.
    >
    >
    > I guess I will go on searching for a way to make, or somewhere to buy,
    > tallow.
    >
    >
    >
    > Trevor Kenchington
    >
    >
    >
    > P.S.: Bill wrote:
    >
    > > I do maintain that bushwhacking 2000-or-so years ago in the "old world"
    is
    > > on-topic. What trade/military routes were established and why? What
    > > methods did the Roman Empire et al use to establish the routes? How
    many
    > > are major roads these days? Curious.
    >
    > Not much call for bushwacking in most of Europe in 4 AD: the area was
    > well populated, with tracks and roads to follow.
    >
    > I don't know much about how the Roman's planned the overall routes of
    > their roads but their technique for laying down the detailed route was
    > straightforward: Get up on the ridge lines, establish a beacon where the
    > route of the road crossed each ridge, then have the work crew build the
    > road heading towards the next beacon. The result is roads that run
    > straight from hilltop to hilltop, with slight angles where they cross
    > the ridges.
    >
    > When I was a kid (1960s), the routes (though not the original structure)
    > of most of the major Roman roads in England (and I believe in France
    > also) were still used as roads and many had major highways built along
    > them. However, settlement patterns had changed and some of the roads no
    > longer connected major centres and so had dwindled. Then came Motorways
    > (equivalent to U.S. Interstates) which deliberately skirted towns and
    > cities, while following sweeping curves rather than the straight lines
    > suited to marching troops. I doubt that they follow the Roman routes
    > other than in the most general sense.
    >
    >
    > --
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