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From: Joel Jacobs (no email)
Date: Mon Aug 02 2004 - 07:39:54 EDT
Hello George,
Some additional comments on reduced scale sextants (7/8):
The small size mirrors collect less light to pass through the optical system
and consequently make twilight observations of stars and planets more
difficult. There is another equally important disadvantage. When taking high
altitude LAN sights the small surface area of the mirrors allows the object
to jump off the mirror more easily than with large size mirrors.
In respect to the telescopes on the reduced scale sextants, they have a
small objective and ocular lens. The Freiberger scope is about 2.5 x 25mm
compared to a normal 4 x 40 scope and passes less light through the system.
Again this makes observations of stars and planets more difficult.
If there are any shooters amongst us, they may comment on the preferred
weight of a rifle. Some people believe that light weight rifles are harder
to hold on target, and less accurate even though carrying them is easier.
The same holds true of a sextant. A very light weight one is thought to be
more difficult to use.
I'm not sure of this, but I think Tamaya was the first to introduce a 7/8
scale sextant around 1975. It was the MS 933 Venus which, when sold today
used, sells for about the same as a NEW Freiberger of the same size.
Freiberger's list price is $600.00. Here's a link to my listing of the
original Venus sextant. GO: http://stores.ebay.com/LAND-and-SEA-COLLECTION
It is the fourth one down. I don't know when Tamaya discontinued production
of this model, but they appear on ebay fairly regularly and sell quickly.
Here is a link to a European Freiberger Yachtsman Sextant site since
Claussen Instrument's is down.
http://www.busse-yachtshop.de/dae_Yachtsextant.html Note that 600 Euros is
about $720 over there.
If you do mostly sun sight navigation, the small size and light weight might
appeal to some, but the 7/8 scale sextant has never had much of a following
by celestial navigators.
Joel Jacobs
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Huxtable" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: Celestaire vs Freiberger Yacht Sextant
> Joel Jacobs <> wrote:
>
>
> >From my experience, if your going to do serious navigation relying on
> > twilight sights, the 7/8 scale sextants are very lacking. Their optics
are
> > not very good, and there small size mirrors are not anywhere as
effective
> > when taking star sights or high altitude sun sights.
> ===============
>
> Something about that puzzles me. Why should it be so, I ask?
>
> First, I should make it clear that I have never even handled such a 7/8
> size sextant; and that observations on my own small boat have never passed
> beyond a plastic job, though I have used many "posh" sextants, belonging
to
> others. So I make no claims to being an expert on sextants.
>
> Yet, it seems to me that if you were to shrink a sextant to 7/8 of its
> original size, and shrink its mirrors correspondingly (in both directions)
> while preserving the same angular field-of-view of its telescope, then
> (because the distance from the eye to those mirrors is also reduced to
7/8)
> the patch of sky that the mirrors subtend would be exactly the same as
> before.
>
> So, in those circumstances, why should the smaller mirrors present any
> disadvantage?
>
> George.
>
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