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After seeing what you guys have, my piece of “string” is a downright
embarrassment. This is one of the few times that I am glad that I don’t have
a digital camera and that I am slow to type a response to some of the posts
I see go by. Just to keep up with the rest of you I am now making a fancier
lanyard.
Robert Gainer
>From: Joel Jacobs <>
>Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List <>
>To:
>Subject: Re: SEXTANT REPAIRS
>Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 09:26:28 -0400
>
>Courtney,
>
>I am glad to see our well rounded navigator Jim Thompson has this one in
>his
>bag of tricks.
>
>This one is not as fancy as some.
>http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/767317/P8010002.JPG
>
>BTW, Boatswain's Mates take great pride in their rope work.
>
>Joel
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Courtney Thomas" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:02 AM
>Subject: Re: SEXTANT REPAIRS
>
>
> > Requesting a lanyard picture, please.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Joel Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't got the time to spend on making sextant repairs, but if
>anyone
>has
> > > the need for Tamaya or C. Plath parts they are welcome to check with
>me.
>I
> > > might be able to come up with something. Some of these parts such as a
> > > filter housing, with filters, may be drilled and tapped to fit other
>makes.
> > > The same for legs. Unless you're a purist, $75.00 U.S. plus shipping
>is
>a
> > > bit steep for each filter for most of us.
> > >
> > > SEXTANT DAMAGE: I made a very fancy "rope work" lanyard like those
>used
> > > with a bo'sun pipe, which I wore around my neck attached to my
>sextant.
>In
> > > all the years at sea on small craft where the forces can be extreme ,
>I
> > > never had any damage. I suggest others might find this useful. I can
>send a
> > > picture of one attached to a bo'sun pipe to those interested.
> > >
> > > ATB,
> > >
> > > Joel Jacobs
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Gainer" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 6:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>In the time that I have been cruising, I have had to resilver the
>mirrors
> > >>once. Replace a leg on both the Freiberger and the Cassens & Plath,
>once
> > >>
> > > on
> > >
> > >>each. I had a friend make a mirror adjusting screw and the
>mirror-locating
> > >>pin for a Heath that I have. I just sent the horizon filter assembly
>back
> > >>
> > > to
> > >
> > >>Cassens & Plath to have a filter replaced (60 euro per glass). The
>only
> > >>sextant that I own that has not had some work done on it is my
>Brandis.
>If
> > >>you sail long enough or far enough in a small boat you will need to
> > >>
> > > replace
> > >
> > >>the light assembles or a leg on your sextant, it will happen. The
>price
>of
> > >>the parts is not the issue. I don't think that if the cost of the leg
>were
> > >>double it would make any difference. You only buy the part once in 30
> > >>
> > > years.
> > >
> > >>Add to this the leg only cost 25 dollars, if it were twice as much so
> > >>
> > > what.
> > >
> > >>But if you can't get the part when you need it, now that's a problem.
>I
> > >>would hate to throw away the Plath because the filter was not
>available.
> > >>Before I bought any thing like a sextant you can be sure that I would
>find
> > >>out who is going to service it and if they can they give me some
>assurance
> > >>on the availability of parts. If the sextant is damaged so much that
>you
> > >>need the help of a repair shop, then I think its time to shop for a
> > >>replacement. If the frame were bent, I would not have it repaired. My
> > >>
> > > office
> > >
> > >>is in need of some decorations anyway.
> > >>All the best,
> > >>Robert Gainer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: Joel Jacobs <>
> > >>>Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List
><>
> > >>>To:
> > >>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants!
> > >>>Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:58:23 -0400
> > >>>
> > >>>Courtney,
> > >>>
> > >>>Sextants that are in use, barring being dropped, shouldn't require
>much,
> > >>>
> > > if
> > >
> > >>>any service. The most that needs be done would be to replace mirrors
>or
> > >>>maybe fix the illumination on C. Plaths which is a weak point. You
>can
> > >>>always have a Plath or Tamaya mirror notched, using a grinding wheel
>to
> > >>>replace a CHO-T horizon mirror.
> > >>>
> > >>>Joel Jacobs
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: "Courtney Thomas" <>
> > >>>To: <>
> > >>>Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:19 PM
> > >>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Joel,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>What is the situation regarding service/repair of the CHO sextants ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>If unavailable, I'd guess the Freiberger, though real high, is at
> > >>>>
> > > least
> > >
> > >>>>available.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Cordially,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Courtney
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Joel Jacobs wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Good call Renee,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>The Alexey I was speaking of is at this site.
> > >>>>>
> > > www.antiques-marine.com
> > >
> > >>>>>Yuri as below, as you've read has a reputation of faithful dealing,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>but
> > >>>I
> > >>>
> > >>>>>'ve no personal experience with him.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Rene, the parts of the Freiberger and CHO-T are not
>interchangeable.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>The
> > >>>
> > >>>>>cost of Freiberger parts in this country is quite high. Check with
> > >>>>>
> > >>>Claussen
> > >>>
> > >>>>>Instruments. The owner, Wayne handles sextants personally.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>IMO, a good clean CHO-T should sell for close to $375-$400.00 with
>a
> > >>>>>
> > > 4
> > >
> > >>>x
> > >>>40
> > >>>
> > >>>>>or 3.5 x 40 scope in the U.S. They're worth less than half that
> > >>>>>
> > > with
> > >
> > >>>a
> > >>>7 x
> > >>>
> > >>>>>scope. If it has two scopes don't add much for the high powered
>one.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>So,
> > >>>you
> > >>>
> > >>>>>really need to know the scope situation before you can evaluate the
> > >>>>>attractiveness of a Russian sextant. And then don't forget the
> > >>>>>
> > >>>mirrors.
> > >>>
> > >>>>>Sextant mirrors are horrendously expensive.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>BTW, Mauri had a NEW CHO-T on his site for close to $400.00 which
>is
> > >>>>>
> > >>>quite
> > >>>
> > >>>>>high considering the shipping. Everyone knows that in the Cyrillic
> > >>>>>
> > >>>alphabet
> > >>>
> > >>>>>that S and T are the same?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>A good clean Freiberger should bring from $375-$450, so I
>personally
> > >>>>>
> > >>>don't
> > >>>
> > >>>>>see much difference between them price wise.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Sextants that are in use, barring being dropped, shouldn't require
> > >>>>>
> > >>>much
> > >>>if
> > >>>
> > >>>>>any service. The most that needs be done would be to replace
>mirrors
> > >>>>>
> > >>>or
> > >>>
> > >>>>>maybe fix the illumination on C. Plaths which is a weak point. You
> > >>>>>
> > > can
> > >
> > >>>>>always have a Plath or Tamaya mirror notched to replace a CHO-T
> > >>>>>
> > >>>horizon
> > >>>
> > >>>>>mirror.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Joel Jacobs
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>From: "Renee Mattie" <>
> > >>>>>To: <>
> > >>>>>Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:57 AM
> > >>>>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>From: Renee Mattie [mailto:]
> > >>>>>>Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:59 AM
> > >>>>>>To: 'Navigation Mailing List'
> > >>>>>>Subject: RE: [NAV-L] Soviet Sextants!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Joel Jacobs said:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>I am pasting a representative copy of one of my Russian ebay
> > >>>>>>>
> > > sextant
> > >
> > >>>>>>listings which
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>discusses the advantages of the Russian CHO-T sextant in
> > >>>>>>>
> > > particular,
> > >
> > >>>>>>>and
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>in general. If
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>the seller is "ALEXEY" and I think it is, I have dealt with him a
> > >>>>>>>couple
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>of times, and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>he is totally trustworthy.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>The seller gives contact information of:
> > >>>>>>Yuri Margorsky:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I don't know if he has any relation to the Alexey you speak of.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I have a question though:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Robert Gainer said:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Because you can buy the Freiberger for within a few dollars of
>the
> > >>>>>>>Soviet
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>one, what are
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>you gaining? It's easier to get parts or have the Freiberger
> > >>>>>>>
> > > serviced
> > >
> > >>>>>>>and
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I would feel > more comfortable with it, if for that reason and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>nothing
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>else.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I know the CHO-T is based closely on the Freiberger. Can it not
>use
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>the
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>same parts?
> > >>>>>>Would it be more difficult to get parts and services for the
>CHO-T?
> > >>>>>>In general, the Freiberger price of a Freiberger on Ebay is at
>least
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>20%
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>higher than that for a CHO-T. I am surprised to see maurnavy
> > >>>>>>
> > > selling
> > >
> > >>>one
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>for LESS than the CHO-T. The pictured Freibuger looks perfect
> > >>>>>>
> > > (though
> > >
> > >>>>>there
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>are no closeups of any of the parts). The only visible difference
> > >>>>>>
> > > is
> > >
> > >>>that
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>it has only one scope.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Renee
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>--
> > >>>>s/v Mutiny
> > >>>>Rhodes Bounty II
> > >>>>lying Oriental, NC
> > >>>>WDB5619
> > >>>>
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