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Re: The Online Nautical Almanac- beware!

From: Frank Reed (no email)
Date: Tue Jul 06 2004 - 22:42:26 EDT

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    George H wrote of Reis's online almanac:
    "He is investigating the problem further, and hopes to correct it or at the
    very least to post a warning if users stray into error-prone dates."

    I've puzzled out the source of the larger portion of the errors in his star
    positions. He has apparently not included the "proper motions" for the stars.

    Many stars, especially distant stars, have proper motions that are so small
    that they are of on consequence even after a couple of hundred years. But for
    those stars which have large proper motions, this is a big issue even for
    Reis's recommended period of time: 1950 to 2050. For example, the position for
    Arcturus in 1950 given by Reis's almanac site is off by 0.8 minutes in SHA and 1.4
    minutes in Declination, and his 1950 position for Rigel Kentaurus (alpha
    Centauri) is off by 5.4 minutes in SHA and 0.5 minutes in Declination. If you take
    it back to 1804, his Rigil Kent position is off by nearly half a degree, and
    the Arcturus position is out by more than 7 minutes of arc.

    In addition, there is still a precession problem (that's a best guess on my
    part) in Reis's star positions. This is not a serious problem in the
    recommended period, but it leads to additional errors of up to 1.5 minutes in most cases
    and errors over 5 minutes in exceptional cases when you go back 200 years.

    And George, if you used any data from his site to analyze those Lewis & Clark
    lunars back in April, as I did, you can see that you may want to revisit
    those calculations.

    None of these errors are present in my online almanac data:
    http://www.HistoricalAtlas.com/nadata_v5.html

    Frank R
    [ ] Mystic, Connecticut
    [X] Chicago, Illinois


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