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From: Robert Eno (no email)
Date: Thu May 06 2004 - 12:25:00 EDT
People, People,
We dealt with this issue last year. I thought that after the last flare-
up and attendent flurry of comments back and forth, that the issue had
been resolved.
I think that a few people are displaying a level of ultra-sensitivity and
thin-skinned-ness that goes way over the top. I also cannot help but feel
that there is a certain degree of bigoty involved here. I DO NOT MEAN
RACIAL BIGOTY, but bigotry against a particular affiliation. Many posters
to this forum list their affiliations as a part of their signature. So
what? I think the problem here is that the individual in question is a
member of, among other organizations, the National Rifle Association. To
some, particularly here in Canada and over in Europe, this is akin to
being a memeber of a terrorist organization.
Would these expressions of outrage have been precipitated by a fellow
member who, for example had: "The Society for the Outlawing of Whale
Hunting" or "International Save the Oceans Committee" appended to his
signature? I think not. I think what is really going on here is that some
folks have such a visceral dislike of firearms and firearms-related
associations -- particularly the NRA -- that any reference to same sets
them off into apoplectic fits of outrage.
The gentleman in question has never discussed anything on this forum but
navigation. He has never attempted to foist his beliefs and opinions on
this forum. He has never discussed anything but navigation. That he has
his affilitations appended to his signature should be of no consequence.
If you are offended, stop reading the posting once you reach his name.
Contrary to what some might believe, we do not have a God-given right to
be protected from an opinion which we find offensive.
I too have some very strong feelings about this topic but this is not the
forum in which to expand on those feelings. And no, I am not an NRA
member.
I agree with Captain Weilacher. Leave the guy alone please.
Robert
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><DIV>When I was young, my father raised chickens.</DIV>
><DIV>There was one chicken in the yard that was being picked to
death.</DIV>
><DIV>I asked my father why he didn't save it.</DIV>
><DIV>He said that if he did, they would just start picking another one
to death and it could be his best layer.</DIV>
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><DIV>To me, you all are sounding like a bunch of nit picking hens who
have contributed not one word of navigation wisdom or thought in this
entire thread.</DIV>
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><DIV>What goes on above the signature is content, below is business
card. You don't like a man's business card, ignore it.</DIV>
><DIV><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: "Royer, Doug"
<><BR>Sent: May 6, 2004 3:21 PM <BR>To: NAVIGATION-
L at LISTSERV dot WEBKAHUNA dot COM <BR>Subject: Re: political messages on
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><DIV><SPAN class=800530020-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Frank and all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=800530020-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>For what it's worth I TOTALLY agree.I really don't wish to know
anyone's pollitical views or affiliations.I can go to other lists and
other boards to get that kind of abuse!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=800530020-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>It serves no purpose here.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=800530020-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I don't care if you're a Jew. I don't care if you're an Inuit. I
don't even care if you're a frikkin penguin! I don't care if you tote a
firearm or you don't.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=800530020-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>In this forum all politically charged headings or memberships or
allegiances are ALL equally WORTHLESS.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=800530020-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>One reason I enjoy this list is because I can escape the political
bullsh!t I am subjected to elsewhere.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=800530020-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I appologise</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>if my
strong opinion on this matter offends other listmembers.But I do so get
tired of certain members and the advertisements of thier
affiliations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=800530020-06052004></SPAN><FONT
face=Tahoma><BR></FONT><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Wolfgang K
wrote:<BR>"CSSTHOBIEMAATNCTKA (Can`t somebody stop this habit of
broadcasting in<BR>e-mails memberships and allegiances that nobody cares
to know about)"<BR><BR>Indeed. Why don't you demonstrate by example,
Wolfgang...<BR><BR>Another list member recently took the opportunity to
repeat his bad habit of expressing his political opinions on the list.
This is nothing but grafitti. Please, BOTH of you, and also those with
politically-charged signatures, take it somewhere else.<BR><BR>Frank E.
Reed<BR>[ ] Mystic, Connecticut<BR>[X] Chicago, Illinois</FONT>
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>Dave Weilacher
>..US Coast Guard licensed captain
>.. #889968
>..ASA instructor evaluator and celestial
>.. navigation instructor #990800
>..IBM AS400 RPG contract programmer</PRE>
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