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Re: long lost lunars

From: George Huxtable (no email)
Date: Sun Dec 07 2003 - 09:32:40 EST

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    Thanks to Frank Reed for an interesting mailing. I hope he gets out of his
    snowdrifts soon.

    A few comments from George, who admits to being, these days, a pontificator
    rather than a practitioner of the lunar art.

    It's a pleasure to be able to agree with just about every word that Frank
    writes.

    He said "I'm a physicist by training specializing in gravitation."

    Frank, where were you a few months ago when the list was wrangling over the
    question of the dips and bumps in the Earth's gravitational field (and
    whether you could shorten a passage by navigating around them)? I think a
    consensus was reached in the end, but we could have done with some
    authoritative words from a specialist.

    "I am also the author/developer of the "Centennia Historical Atlas" CD-ROM
    which is required reading for all students at the US Naval Academy but
    that's another story."

    It's a story that I, for one would like to learn more about, please.

    "It occurred to me that Mystic Seaport could capitalize on that familiarity
    by telling the other side of the story --the one in which Maskelyne is no
    villain. And so I began an effort to bring back "the long lost lunars".

    Good on you, as the Aussies would say. It's time that something was done to
    redress the great injustices that were done to Maskelyne in that Sobel
    book.

    "I discovered that the most serious flaw in the Davis plastic sextant is in
    the shades. In the middle of the night, I often needed a horizon shade to
    reduce the Moon's brilliance when using one of the fainter "lunars stars"
    (especially Hamal, Alpha Arietis). But the shades produced bad errors
    (presumably "prismatic error").

    Yes, it's a weakness that applies to other plastic sextants, including some
    Ebbco models. It was got round in some early sextants, in the days when
    plane-parallel glass was hard to find, by mounting the shades so they could
    be rotated through 180°, then averaging.

    "It's a brass Plath sextant estimated to be from the late 1940s. Its best
    feature for lunars is a 6x30 monocular which makes the Moon nice and big in
    the field of view. This high-power monocular makes a BIG difference."

    In the heyday of lunars, observers would use high-gain telescopes when they
    could, but the disadvantage was in the restricted angle-of-view, so that in
    rough conditions it would be difficult to get and keep the two bodies in
    the field of view. And those telescopes were so long that the sextant would
    have to be held right out at arm's length, as some old illustrations show.
    Presumably a modern Plath is superior in both respects. Does Frank have
    access to any "historical" sextant to make a comparison, I wonder?

    "Mostly I shot my lunars from my backyard and calculated the altitudes. I
    also wrote my own version of Arthur Pearson's spreadsheet calculator but
    set up as a web page."

    Using that system, is Frank able to deduce the longitude from the observed
    lunar distance, with altitudes calculated and not measured, and no prior
    knowledge of chronometer error or longitude? Can this be done without any
    measured altitudes at all?

    "I would also be happy to talk about calculations at some point if anyone
    is interested, but it's a big topic so I'll save that for another message."

    Several of us are interested in such matters and would be keen to know
    Frank's views.

    "The chronometer had to be developed to cover the period around New Moon.
    The lunar distance method was not complete without the chronometer."

    Yes, and I would add that for long voyages, until chronometers got more
    accurate and reliable, the chronometer method was not complete without the
    lunar distance. Cook, for example, away for several years, relied on
    correcting his chronometer readings using lunar distances. Mainly his
    chronometer was used to interpolate for time over each passage of a voyage.
    At the beginning and end of the leg, and sometimes in-between, its errors
    had been determined by lunar distances (and sometimes moons of Jupiter).

    "maybe the 21st century is the time to breathe some life into the long lost
    lunars."

    I agree, and suspect that more interest is being taken in lunars just now
    than at any time in the last hundred years. This list is doing what it can.
    As is the "Navigators' Newsletter." I suspect that part of it is the
    removal of that great trigonometrical bugbear, the "clearing" of the
    distance, by the use of calculators/computers. Another is, oddly enough,
    the advent of GPS, which has taken away interest from classical navigation
    as a means of finding where you are, and diverted it into understanding the
    immense importance that scientific navigation played in the opening-up of
    the World. That's my own view, anyway.

    George.

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