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Subject: Re: Honesty (was Re: Mercator vs. Great Circle Charts)
From: Richard B. Emerson (navsys@XXX.XXX)
Date: Wed Aug 29 2001 - 11:14:52 EDT
I say the following as a statement of fact and not as a judgement: the
enclosed is what's shown up here in the past as some student tries to
get the list to do their homework.
While I stand by my remarks, predicated as they were on what now
appears to be incomplete information (and I do *not* mean that in a
negative or derogatory manner), it appears that the initial situation
was not clearly stated. If, as now seems to be the case, this was an
effort to find further input for the answers to questions already
researched, then, indeed, welcome and ask away. Please understand
that initial situation touches on a matter that I do not easily
discount or ignore. I publicly apologize for the pain my harsh remarks
have caused and refer to an earlier posting about navigators and
rocks. I do not consider myself "the best of navigators".
Richard B. Emerson
Carolyn Seefer writes:
> In a message dated 8/29/2001 6:21:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> navsys@XXX.XXX writes:
>
>
> > I stand by my remarks. Had Ms. Seefer said "I'm taking this course, I
> > need help with these questions" then I wouldn't be as bothered by the
> > situation.
>
> Mr. Emerson, this is exactly what I did. Here is the exact start of the first
> message I sent to the mailing list yesterday:
>
> "I just joined the Navigation mailing list. This semester I am taking an
> oceanography class, and this list looked interesting and informative. I am a
> novice in this area (but eager to learn!), so I am hoping to learn a lot on
> this list from the experts.
>
> We are currently studying Mercator and great circle charts, and I've already
> run into a few questions I am hoping you can help me with:"
>
> I was completely upfront about my goals. I continue to stand by my position
> that I have done nothing wrong. And, Mr. Emerson, I am completely honest in
> all of my dealings.
>
> Carolyn M. Seefer, MBA
> Instructor, Business Division
> Diablo Valley College
> 321 Golf Club Road
> Pleasant Hill, CA 94523
> (925) 685-1230 x306
> (925) 687-6384 (fax)
> cseefer@XXX.XXX
> <A HREF="http://www.dvc.edu/aim/carolyn.htm">http://www.dvc.edu/aim/carolyn.htm>
> "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."
> --Gandhi
> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 8/29/2001 6:21:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> <BR>navsys@XXX.XXX writes:
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I stand by my remarks. Had Ms. Seefer said "I'm taking this course, I
> <BR>need help with these questions" then I wouldn't be as bothered by the
> <BR>situation. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
> <BR>Mr. Emerson, this is exactly what I did. Here is the exact start of the first
> <BR>message I sent to the mailing list yesterday:
> <BR>
> <BR>"I just joined the Navigation mailing list. This semester I am taking an
> <BR>oceanography class, and this list looked interesting and informative. I am a
> <BR>novice in this area (but eager to learn!), so I am hoping to learn a lot on
> <BR>this list from the experts.
> <BR>
> <BR>We are currently studying Mercator and great circle charts, and I've already
> <BR>run into a few questions I am hoping you can help me with:"
> <BR>
> <BR>I was completely upfront about my goals. I continue to stand by my position
> <BR>that I have done nothing wrong. And, Mr. Emerson, I am completely honest in
> <BR>all of my dealings.
> <BR>
> <BR>Carolyn M. Seefer, MBA
> <BR>Instructor, Business Division
> <BR>Diablo Valley College
> <BR>321 Golf Club Road
> <BR>Pleasant Hill, CA 94523
> <BR>(925) 685-1230 x306
> <BR>(925) 687-6384 (fax)
> <BR>cseefer@XXX.XXX
> <BR><A HREF="http://www.dvc.edu/aim/carolyn.htm">http://www.dvc.edu/aim/carolyn.htm>
> <BR>"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."
> <BR>--Gandhi</FONT></HTML>
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