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Subject: Re: Honesty (was Re: Mercator vs. Great Circle Charts)
From: David Weilacher (daveweilacher@XXX.XXX)
Date: Wed Aug 29 2001 - 08:39:10 EDT
So this is a new person to this list.
She took the time to join the list.
Then she took the time to type out a long email message asking for assistance.
Not a single answer to any question has been forthcoming.
Just attacks on her character, morals, and ethics.
I would contend that even if this was a 15 year old "scum bag of the universe", the very act of typing out all those questions with her own hand, then evaluating the answers she receives, accomplishes the act of learning.
This is the goal.
I would say to her not to be discouraged with this group as they are far better people than has been demonstrated so far.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Richard B. Emerson" <navsys@XXX.XXX>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:10:22 -0400
To: NAVIGATION-L@XXX.XXX
Subject: [NAV-L] Honesty (was Re: Mercator vs. Great Circle Charts)
Re: No, no, Ms. Seefer, that simply won't do. Your argument that the
Re: course is being taken for personal enrichment (consider what this
Re: episode says about that goal) and that "being innovative" in seeking
Re: the answers is, to be blunt, little more than poor rationalization.
Re: One is either honest or not; one cannot claim honesty when it suits
Re: and put it aside when, as your message implies you've done, it doesn't
Re: suit one's mood. Ms. Seefer, it *always* matters.
Re:
Re: Were you only a student cheating on a test, the matter might rest
Re: there but as an academic you are obliged to maintain a higher standard
Re: that your students should aim to emulate. Failing to do so is,
Re: because of your responsibility as an instructor, is doubly wrong. I
Re: suggest you review the cases of those academics found to be falsifying
Re: their research, their work, and their credentials. There is a lesson
Re: to be learned there. I hope you learn it. In the meantime, I shudder
Re: to think what your students have learned from you about ethics.
Re:
Re: Richard B. Emerson
Re:
--Dave Weilacher .USCG lic. 889968 .ASA certifed sailing instructor 990800 .AS400 RPG programmer
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