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Re: lv-ab: LB on Pac Coast Summary

From: Garth Grimm (no email)
Date: Mon Aug 02 1999 - 20:20:16 EDT

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    Paul,

    A San Francisco Bay Area Harbormaster told me that any vessal that has somebody
    stay aboard more than three nights a week is a live-aboard vessel. What their
    legal residency is isn't relevant. Of course, you're probably less likely to
    get caught, but you'd still be a "sneak-aboard" in the laws eyes.

    Peace,
    Garth

    Paul Saltzman wrote:

    > You know it's easy to read this thread and think nothing of it. and i
    > think that is because I am not a "live-aboard" as you and many others are.
    > I have a residence beside Evening Star. And maybe that's the key. What
    > changes "LIVE-ABOARD" from one that STAY ABOARD"?
    >
    > I spend my week on evening star. My wife comes down to join me on Fridays
    > and we'll head out to our favorite gunkhole for the weekend. I do this
    > because I work 20 minutes from the boat and live 2 hours from work (don't
    > ask it's a long story). So here's my premise.
    >
    > find someone that is willing to allow you the use of their address, keep a
    > change of clothes there, and use it as your legal address. Then the boat
    > is your pleasure craft once again and you have circumvented the rules.
    >
    > the draw back is if you feel that you should be able to live aboard and not
    > be taxed as others living in more traditional housing. I think that if
    > your trying to hide something, modern technology is catching up to you. If
    > you truly love the life style and your an upstanding citizen then you
    > should be permitted the right of choice. the choice of living aboard or
    > ashore.
    >
    > I guess the politico's only want their unfair share but what's so new about
    > that...
    > At 01:49 PM 8/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
    > >One of my co-workers told me this morning that he saw a news story on
    > >Fox News last night talking about how the city of Oakland, CA was
    > >moving to remove all the liveaboards from the Port Of Oakland Marinas.
    > >Did anyone else catch this? I know that the port was starting to crack
    > >down on some of the non-operational boats being used as cheap housing
    > >by putting a putt-putt rule into place.
    > >
    > >From what I heard one of the liveaboards wrote to the Oakland Mayor
    > >complaining that his/her rights were being violated and that the port
    > >should be made to back off. This resulted in the city coming down even
    > >harder on the liveaboards. It should be noted that there are no legal
    > >liveaboards in the Oakland marinas. I guess it goes to show that if you
    > >are not a legal liveaboard you have to keep your head down and accept
    > >the fact that you have no right to live where you want to no matter how
    > >long someone has let you get away with it.
    > >
    > >I am glad I finally got a legal liveaboard slip and so ending 4 years
    > >of sneaking around trying to be unnoticed.
    > >
    > >Marvin
    > >S/V Osage
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    > SMOOTH SAILING:
    >
    > Paul Saltzman
    > S/V EVENING STAR
    > Kingston, NY
    >
    > Photo of Evening Star.
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