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Yes thank you for the apology and thank everyone for the
support.
The one thing that this shows is how much everyone cares
about this list and that is a good thing.
Vern
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:21:03 -0400
Sam Densler <> wrote:
> Bob,
> Thanks for the apology, our emails appear to have
>crossed out there. We do want a reply from Stefan,
>nobody wants to "push" him out after all he has done, we
>just want to make sure we do what we can to make the
>transition as smooth as possible. Vern's first post
>said, "The new list is ready to go whenever we are" and
>we stand ready whenever the list is ready to start the
>transition.
>
> Thanks for the clarification,
> Sam
>
>
>
>
> Bob Clinkenbeard wrote:
>> Vern,
>> We don't disagree on the list needing a new server or a
>>new moderator.
>> Stefan has been lax for a number of years and the list
>>has been down
>> several times since I joined in 1999. My point is that
>>a smooth
>> transition is needed to maintain the list. I'm sure he
>>can give you
>> information on the members that would be helpful in
>>keeping the list
>> together. I know little about servers or their cost to
>>operate/maintain
>> and even less about the time it takes to do what is
>>necessary.
>>
>> When Stefan took the list from Ray, it was done as a
>>joint effort. I
>> would like to see the same happen this time so that we
>>can all feel that
>> protocol has been met and we haven't left a "sinking
>>ship with the
>> captain on board".
>>
>> I wish you and others could understand this and give it
>>a little more
>> time so that he can at least reply. I sent him a
>>personal email and
>> hope he responds. If you remember last year, he
>>expressed the same
>> about moving the server and at that time I strongly
>>supported Sam (which
>> turns out to be you) and I still do. I don't know why
>>he dropped the
>> ball and didn't respond then, to the offer you and Sam
>>made.
>> I also appreciate you volunteering for the job...it is
>>not one I would
>> have.
>>
>> Thanks for supporting our pictures over the years,
>>including mine. I
>> hope this can be worked out so that all will be
>>satisfied to move
>> forward and make the list even better than it has been
>>in the past.
>> Maybe a time limit should be set for him to respond?
>> Maybe the backup
>> plan I suggested will suffice till then?
>> I don't have any answers, only questions.
>>
>> I apologize to you for anything I have said that you may
>>feel was a
>> personal attack. My feelings are strong about this
>>matter and I only
>> want to see the list survive and Stefan receive the
>>kudos he deserves.
>>
>> On this note, I withdraw from this discussion and will
>>observe the fate
>> of the list with the others.
>>
>> Bob Clinkenbeard
>> 24' custom trailer trawler
>> http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: lv-ab: comments on the new List
>>
>>
>>> One more minor thing to add to this little discussion on
>>>my attempts
>>> to hijack the list.
>>>
>>> Do you know all of those cool pictures of the list
>>>members that Sam
>>> has had on his site for the past 4 or so years? Do you
>>>have any idea
>>> who owns, maintains, and pays for the bandwidth for the
>>>server that
>>> those are hosted on?
>>>
>>> I will give you 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count.
>>>
>>> Vern
>>
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