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From: (no name) (no email)
Date: Sun Sep 23 2007 - 20:08:16 EDT
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:00:22 -0800
"Rufus Laggren" <> wrote:
> Vern,
>
> Thanks for the fast work. I'm pretty sure this is a
>foolish question, please don't be insulted, but: Have you
>tested the new system in a realistic way? I guess you
>have some wiggle room since this will a completely
>different list (as far as the computers are concerned) so
>this original list can remain operative for some time
>after the new one goes live - so you have a fall back
>position if weird problems occur.
I have not done any major user testing yet but when we
start to cut over we can sure give it a good test before
cutting off the other system. The server itself is stable
and has been running for several months as a web server
and a backup to one of my other servers. The software is
tried and true so I believe it will be stable.
>
> I have a couple of thoughts which you may have
>considered already, but: <g>
>
> 1) I don't access the list everyday, and sometimes not
>every week. Unless I'm the only tardy one, that means
>some of those "dead" names may wake up 6' under some day
>and be mighty disappointed. For example, I was gone for 3
>months this summer. If this discussion had started the
>day I left town and you brought up the new list 4 weeks
>later and then killed the old server 8 weeks after that,
>I'd arrive home and find the list dead. So it may be wise
>to close this list with several messages to every member
>explaining the new address and sign-up procedure. And/or
>it may be possible to setup an automatic boiler plate
>bounce reply at the old address to inform any senders
>that it's no longer active and how they can resubscribe.
>Of course, it needs testing once in a while to verify
>that the bounce reply it's still working.
This is something that I Stefan will have to do since he
owns the current server.
>
> 2) "Cut-over" is often exciting and can be frustrating.
>I would think it a good idea to plan on using this
>existing forum as the communications channel for all
>problems until everybody who mists the glass here is
>accounted for on the other side. Perhaps the old server
>can be set to bounce any message without the word "LvAbd
>Relocated" in the subject line to discourage conversation
>on the old server.
That is a good idea but again something Stefan would have
to do. Another thing we might want to do is subscribe the
new list to the old list so that it gets a copy of all of
the messages. I can try to subscribe and see what happens
> 3) Finally, I assume you're in close contact with
>Stephen to coordinate his big day of freedom - just to
>minimize surprises at this party. To herd all members
>into the new corral, the old server needs to be cut off
>completely at some not-to-distant point and it would be
>good to decide how/when. Exit strategy you know - good to
>have one b4 you commit the troops!
Actually Stefan is MIA right now. I don't know if anyone
else has heard from but I sure haven't.
We want to make this as painless as possible.
Vern
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