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From: Rit (no email)
Date: Tue Apr 10 2007 - 19:46:52 EDT
Thanks Jeff, that was useful info.
I'm in the process of obtaining the same unit.
How has the leather chafe guard worked out for you?
Thanks in advance.
rit
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From:
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:50 PM
To: 'Southwinds Editor'; 'LiveAboard List'
Subject: RE: lv-ab: 18 Volt Right Angle Drill conversion to a power winch
handle
Steve,
Thanks for the 'emergency lock washer' idea, I'll file that one away in the
back of my mind to use someday - never know when that type of knowledge will
save the day.
The 'Red' thread lock liquid works like a charm. The drill will stall out
before the chuck will un-screw. As you most likely know, on 2 speed winches
the reverse or counterclockwise speed is the most powerful. The downside is
you really can't remove the chuck to vary the gearing - the RAD is setup to
provide two speeds by removing the chuck and inverting the right angle
adaptor. However, the slower speed is just what you want for this
application.
As far as I can tell the Winch Buddy is a Milwaukee right angle drill with a
rubber type cover along with a winch bit, and a case - I saw some prices at
$1,200 for their product. It actually got me to thinking to put one
together, especially when I found the winch bit on EBAY for $50. BTW there
are two winch bits available - one is square (4 sides) the other has 8 sides
that fill all the milled slots in the winch, the one with 8 sides is a
better product, IMHO - I bought both to try. The drill sits more securely in
the winch with the 8 sided one.
I created a leather cover for the drill, more to keep damage to the boat
down as this drill has some weight to it, don't drop it on your foot. Have 2
batteries for it. Extra batteries are somewhere around $125, but are
guaranteed for 2000 recharges. The technology on this V-28 is impressive -
you can further research it on the web. The charger is a 120VAC unit and the
old Trace MW inverter works fine with it. A 12VDC charger was on the horizon
when I was buying parts and might be available now. Charging time is
approximately 1 hour. The batteries have a unique charge indicator built in.
So far, I have $400 in the V28 RAD, $125 for the extra Battery, $100 in two
winch bits, $20 in leather and some time putting it all together. About $650
- about half price it seems.
The limitation here is the size of your winch - you can't expect to pull a
200lb person up the mast with a winch rated for 100lbs, the RAD will just
stall at some point - but you don't have enough arm strength to crank it out
manually as well.
I like my setup very much, money well spent as I was shopping Anderson
electrics which if you add installation, wiring, breakers, yada, yada, yada
is about $7500.
I find on my boat projects that taking the price of the part and multiply by
three will get you very close to what it ends up costing
(installed/turnkey), I price my labor on these projects at a $75.00 an hour
flat rate - no extra for nights, weekends or overtime though. The $75 an
hour is really cheap for the talent, engineering services and overall
quality of the work. The customer is generally thrilled with the end result.
Sorry to ramble on here - thought this might be of interest.
Jeff on Southern Nights
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From:
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Editor
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:16 AM
To: Jeff Barfett; 'LiveAboard List'
Subject: Re: lv-ab: 18 Volt Right Angle Drill conversion to a power winch
handle
I had an advertiser who makes one that solves all the problems you confront
on this, and they designed it for a winch (Winch Buddy) but I thought the
price was high at a $1000 although I understand it was designed and built to
high standards for the job and water environment, although I thought you
could be 3-4 cordless ones like you have for the same price. If you had an
impact-like adjustment like on a screw gun, but in reverse, it might solve
the problem, but I await your findings after welding it on.
I was in construction for many years and periodically used what I called the
emergency lock washer when I didn't have one: Just take some
pliers/visegrips and screw up the threads so a nut can't easily come off,
although if it breaks the screw, that might no work as my method still
allows you to remove the nut with some wrenches. It just can't come loose on
its own or real easily.
Steve Morrell
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From: "Jeff Barfett" <>
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Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: lv-ab: 18 Volt Right Angle Drill conversion to a power winch
handle
> Milwaukee has a newer version of the RAD drill in 28volts. Bought it and
> the
> bit, but have had problems operating the drill in the reverse mode as it
> keeps breaking the cap screw that helps hold the chuck onto the main
> threaded shaft. Into the service shop three times for replacement of the
> $3
> screw, no issues with these guys doing the work under warranty- talks with
> the factory guys didn't get me very far and gave up the idea of them
> helping
> with the issue. Was going to weld the chuck to the drill, but my welding
> guy
> told me to try the 'red' thread lock - this stuff needs heat to break it
> loose once set.
>
> The red stuff worked great - no cap screw in it as the last one broke and
> didn't replace it. Guess the 18 volt model didn't have the torque this bad
> boy has!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: lv-ab: 18 Volt Right Angle Drill conversion to a power winch
> handle
>
> http://www.winchbit.com/
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
>
> Rit wrote:
>> Has anyone seen this done?
>>
>> I heard someone was making one. Any info?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> rit
>>
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