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That was a wealth of information. Now I know why those winch buddy guys
charge so much.
They told me they really put a lot into it in design and construction and
heavily tested it.
If you got an extra $1000 - 1200 laying around and no time, they are
probably the way to go.
I don't even have an extra $100 laying around
steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Barfett" <>
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: lv-ab: 18 Volt Right Angle Drill conversion to a power winch
handle
> Steve,
>
> Thanks for the 'emergency lock washer' idea, I'll file that one away in
> the
> back of my mind to use someday - never know when that type of knowledge
> will
> save the day.
>
> The 'Red' thread lock liquid works like a charm. The drill will stall out
> before the chuck will un-screw. As you most likely know, on 2 speed
> winches
> the reverse or counterclockwise speed is the most powerful. The downside
> is
> you really can't remove the chuck to vary the gearing - the RAD is setup
> to
> provide two speeds by removing the chuck and inverting the right angle
> adaptor. However, the slower speed is just what you want for this
> application.
>
> As far as I can tell the Winch Buddy is a Milwaukee right angle drill with
> a
> rubber type cover along with a winch bit, and a case - I saw some prices
> at
> $1,200 for their product. It actually got me to thinking to put one
> together, especially when I found the winch bit on EBAY for $50. BTW there
> are two winch bits available - one is square (4 sides) the other has 8
> sides
> that fill all the milled slots in the winch, the one with 8 sides is a
> better product, IMHO - I bought both to try. The drill sits more securely
> in
> the winch with the 8 sided one.
>
> I created a leather cover for the drill, more to keep damage to the boat
> down as this drill has some weight to it, don't drop it on your foot. Have
> 2
> batteries for it. Extra batteries are somewhere around $125, but are
> guaranteed for 2000 recharges. The technology on this V-28 is impressive -
> you can further research it on the web. The charger is a 120VAC unit and
> the
> old Trace MW inverter works fine with it. A 12VDC charger was on the
> horizon
> when I was buying parts and might be available now. Charging time is
> approximately 1 hour. The batteries have a unique charge indicator built
> in.
>
> So far, I have $400 in the V28 RAD, $125 for the extra Battery, $100 in
> two
> winch bits, $20 in leather and some time putting it all together. About
> $650
> - about half price it seems.
>
> The limitation here is the size of your winch - you can't expect to pull a
> 200lb person up the mast with a winch rated for 100lbs, the RAD will just
> stall at some point - but you don't have enough arm strength to crank it
> out
> manually as well.
>
> I like my setup very much, money well spent as I was shopping Anderson
> electrics which if you add installation, wiring, breakers, yada, yada,
> yada
> is about $7500.
>
> I find on my boat projects that taking the price of the part and multiply
> by
> three will get you very close to what it ends up costing
> (installed/turnkey), I price my labor on these projects at a $75.00 an
> hour
> flat rate - no extra for nights, weekends or overtime though. The $75 an
> hour is really cheap for the talent, engineering services and overall
> quality of the work. The customer is generally thrilled with the end
> result.
>
> Sorry to ramble on here - thought this might be of interest.
>
> Jeff on Southern Nights
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Southwinds
> Editor
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:16 AM
> To: Jeff Barfett; 'LiveAboard List'
> Subject: Re: lv-ab: 18 Volt Right Angle Drill conversion to a power winch
> handle
>
> I had an advertiser who makes one that solves all the problems you
> confront
> on this, and they designed it for a winch (Winch Buddy) but I thought the
> price was high at a $1000 although I understand it was designed and built
> to
>
> high standards for the job and water environment, although I thought you
> could be 3-4 cordless ones like you have for the same price. If you had an
> impact-like adjustment like on a screw gun, but in reverse, it might solve
> the problem, but I await your findings after welding it on.
>
> I was in construction for many years and periodically used what I called
> the
>
> emergency lock washer when I didn't have one: Just take some
> pliers/visegrips and screw up the threads so a nut can't easily come off,
> although if it breaks the screw, that might no work as my method still
> allows you to remove the nut with some wrenches. It just can't come loose
> on
>
> its own or real easily.
>
> Steve Morrell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Barfett" <>
> To: "'LiveAboard List'" <>
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 6:54 PM
> Subject: RE: lv-ab: 18 Volt Right Angle Drill conversion to a power winch
> handle
>
>
>> Milwaukee has a newer version of the RAD drill in 28volts. Bought it and
>> the
>> bit, but have had problems operating the drill in the reverse mode as it
>> keeps breaking the cap screw that helps hold the chuck onto the main
>> threaded shaft. Into the service shop three times for replacement of the
>> $3
>> screw, no issues with these guys doing the work under warranty- talks
>> with
>> the factory guys didn't get me very far and gave up the idea of them
>> helping
>> with the issue. Was going to weld the chuck to the drill, but my welding
>> guy
>> told me to try the 'red' thread lock - this stuff needs heat to break it
>> loose once set.
>>
>> The red stuff worked great - no cap screw in it as the last one broke and
>> didn't replace it. Guess the 18 volt model didn't have the torque this
>> bad
>> boy has!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Sam
>> Densler
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:46 PM
>> To: LiveAboard List
>> Subject: Re: lv-ab: 18 Volt Right Angle Drill conversion to a power winch
>> handle
>>
>> http://www.winchbit.com/
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rit wrote:
>>> Has anyone seen this done?
>>>
>>> I heard someone was making one. Any info?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> rit
>>>
>>>
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