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Roy P wrote:
> On Sunday 08 April 2007 01:59, Ken James wrote:
>
>
>> And who will be the first to volunteer to fully live that way if there
>> are other choices? Would you let your kid die because Penicillen is to
>> high tech? Or would you want to work 10-12 hours a day in a hot bug
>> infested field trying to grow corn just to keep from starving to death?
>>
>
> This is, by some people's standards, very attractive.
> There is a prevailing belief that living on a farm in a traditional way of
> life would be horrible. It's simply not the case.
>
I am NOT talking about living on a farm in a traditional way, I am
talking about living as peasants did during the "dark ages" or far worse.
> From a social standard it seems it is preferable to the all too common
> suburban life of today. Instead of people driving into their attached garage
> and sitting in front of their large TV or sitting in their back yards divided
> from the world with a fence. People are required to live and work together,
> to rely on each other. it creates a much stronger social structure that has a
> lot less of the social and health ills you currently see.
>
It also has a lot of negatives, even the traditional type of farm circia
mid 1950's or so, I know. But overall if it was such a choice I am
talking about it would not be so bad. In fact many might find they
would eventually like the alt lifestyle...but that is NOT what I am
talking about!
>> Or would you want your wife to have a 70% chance of dying in childbirth?
>> BTW, the average survival time of a "Mountian Man" in the 1700's was
>> about five years, he starved, froze, got shot, got an infection, or was
>> eaten by a bear before too long.
>> None of these are good things in terms of survival of humans.
>>
>
> That is not really valid since it's an all or nothing scenario.
>
But that is in fact what we are facing, a catastrophic collapse. The way
things are heading right now, once we pass a certain point negative
feedback will be so overwhelming that it will not be a gradual decline
it will all come crashing down rapidly and we may in fact go back to
living as we did in pre-industrial times.
> Select application of technology and knowledge would be possible when living a
> traditional lifestyle.
>
If we plan and act NOW...but that is not happening.-Ken
>
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