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From: Ron Rogers (no email)
Date: Fri Oct 06 2006 - 15:31:46 EDT
Boy, how to screw up a good thing! No wonder we can't get anywhere as a
group. These people say that they are willing to change and they would
simply like some facts to go on. Jees!
Right now, in Florida and elsewhere, as recorded here, various
liveaboards/cruisers are subjected to targeted enforcement by upon
complaints or the predilections of the officer in a boat. The town is
saying, "Tell us how we can write this so that we can get rid of the
derelicts and leave well-cared for liveaboards (as defined by list members)
alone."
What can we lose? Cooperation is worth a try.
Ron Rogers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <>
| Sam,
|
| This is certainly not directed at you as a critisism, but you have been
| treated to a picture-book example of burecratic double-speak.
|
| Here is how they manipulated you, all the while seeming to be
| sympathetic. (This was first class manipulation, by the way, very well
| done for small town politicians, but I digress.)
|
| See below:
|
|
| At 11:24 PM 10/5/2006, Sam Densler wrote:
| >Looks like we finally have the City's attention over the anchoring
| >ordinance. I have been told that the ordinance is not even enforced
| >unless there is a complaint.
|
| Which places the boater in the clutches of any moron with a
| telephone. Let's see... "I hate Sam, and I happen to know he is anchored
| out at (fill in the name of city here), so I'll just call the cops there
| and complain."
|
|
|
| >I have also been told that they cannot remember the last time a citation
| >was written for an offense. They are concerned that we are exaggerating
| >claims of abuse. They want to get the truth so they can address the
issue
| >and change the ordinance to something that keeps the derelict boats from
| >being left at anchor while also allowing responsible boaters to anchor
| >where they choose.
|
| Ah, the arbitrary law, randomly enforced. Enough to warm the hearts of
| law-abusers everywhere.
|
| Let's re-word this:
|
| "We have a law that says we can shoot undesirables on sight. It is up to
| us to determine who is an undesirable. We won't tell you. Oh, by the
way,
| any anonymous phone caller can report you as an undesirable, so we will
| also shoot you then. HOWEVER, this occurs so seldom we are amazed you are
| so ungrateful as to complain about it. The problem is OBVIOUSLY yours,
not
| ours. No one here ever complained, just you. YOU ARE EXAGGERATING."
|
| So now we need someone to stand up and take a bullet before they will be
| convinced they are doing something wrong. Any volunteers?
|
| The problem is placed back on the shoulders of those who point it out, not
| those idiots responsible for enacting the moronic law in the first place.
|
|
|
|
| >The Chamber would like specific details regarding actual incidents that
| >have occurred so that they can present them to the City Manager. He is
| >very interested in hearing of any incidents or abuses.
|
| "Will all those that have been shot, please step forward and complain. We
| will be happy to un-shoot you as soon as your complaint winds its way
| through our bureaucracy. See us in 2 or 3 years for an answer."
|
| Sam, I wish you luck in your endeavors. Stupid laws CAN be changed. The
| expense of effort and will is tremendous however, and the outcome always
| uncertain. Further, any change now is at the tender mercy of those
| bureaucrats that come later, so it is an on-going battle.
|
| It is MUCH easier for people that can just buy their politicians
| outright. A bought politician will stick to you and your cause like a
| limpet. You couldn't shake'em off if you tried. Unfortunately, people in
| transit are seldom willing to buy their very own local politician as the
| expense mounts up.
|
| Tom
|
|
| Tom & Jackie O'Meara
| ex-Seaskate, Searunner 40 Tri
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