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lv-ab: Thank you for your Support

From: Norm of Bandersnatch (no email)
Date: Sun Aug 13 2006 - 14:00:45 EDT

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    i wish to thank everyone for the overwhelming support i received during my
    recent incident with the st augustine policeman officer etheridge.

    everyone understood the situation perfectly and many of you encouraged me
    to go further but i am going to let the matter drop, for several reasons.

    i am reluctant to take this issue any further with the officials of st
    augustine partly out of fear of retaliation. cops can be very subtle in
    this. they know the laws and the workings of the 'justice' system. some
    have been known to carry 'throw away' weapons to place on their victims
    bodies after they kill them. they are not reluctant to lie and present
    false evidence. a good example is the commonly used excuse to stop a car
    for a fishing expedition using the 'intermittent brake light' ploy. it has
    happened to friends, family and myself.

    jan and i were driving home on a dark country road several years ago when
    we were stopped by a st john's county cop. he said our right hand brake
    light was intermittent. in fact the entire light fixture was brand new
    having been installed three days before by a body shop repairing damage to
    jan's mercedes caused by a neighbor sideswiping her car while it was
    parked. we could not reproduce the problem. the cop could have written
    the 'violation' up as a fix-and-have-it-signed-off-by-a-cop no-fine ticket
    but choose instead to write it up as a $65 fine. this cop not only
    committed perjury, but also the sin of 'bearing false witness against thy
    neighbor'. after a lifetime of such experiences it is hard for me to
    imagine a 'good cop' but i am sure there must be some out there.

    cops can and do literally get away with murder. i don't want to be another
    of their victims.

    i also do not want the vile emotions dealing with cops and courts bring
    into my life. the old saying 'lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas'
    applies here. the less i have to do with cops and courts the happier i am.

    i do understand that it is the responsibility of good citizens to stand up
    for what is right because nobody else will. but it was enough for me to
    prevail in this case, perhaps that in itself will encourage officer
    etheridge to be a more moral cop. i have no desire to punish him, only to
    set things right.

    i thought the cases in the court i went to were handled justly.

    most of the defendants did not show up and the judge ruled against them
    plus court costs.

    some were obviously good charges, going 19 mph on the 10 mph st augustine
    beach for example. this is almost twice the legal limit. on the beach
    there is a mix of people strolling and lying on the sand with many children
    playing along with moving motor vehicles. 10 mph strictly enforced is a
    good thing. two young women were killed last year while lying on the sand.
    another case involved a car on the beach driving on the wrong side of some
    traffic cones, which i presume were there to provide a no-vehicle area for
    beach goers, and going the wrong direction [all traffic is one-way to
    reduce the vehicle footprint]. the whole issue of cars on the beach is
    like driving cars through a playground. it is a potentially extremely
    dangerous situation but the people of st augustine really want it so it has
    to be policed very strictly to keep the carnage down.

    one interesting case involved a young man who was new to the area with a
    drink on St Augustine beach where it is illegal. he claimed there was no
    sign entering the beach and the beaches he was familiar with allowed
    drinks. at the time of the citation the cop checked and there was no sign.
    turned out the beach management people had removed it for some
    modifications. the case was dismissed. why the cop just didn't cancel the
    citation i don't know. maybe he couldn't once it was written up.

    one old widow lady had been stuck in soft sand when a bunch of people got
    her out and urged her to 'keep going, keep going...'. that's when the cop
    jumped her and fined her for 25 mph. he said repeatedly that he didn't
    like her 'attitude'. the woman was very vocal and emotional on the stand.
    the judge said she would take the case under advisement and make a judgment
    later.

    'respect' seems to be the greatest of cop desires. they will attack you
    fiercely if you don't have a submissive attitude, just like the cop that
    stopped me in the dinghy wanted me to be grateful he didn't write me up for
    not having a fire extinguisher and when i wasn't he sought to punish me.
    enforcing the law is their bread and butter and in many cases reasonable
    and proper, but they really try to get 'respect' by punishing you if you
    are not submissive. what they really get is a contrived show generated by
    fear and loathing. i don't think they have a clue about real respect,
    probably don't even know what that is, settling instead for that fake
    veneer of false 'respect' people use in response to threats of violence and
    injury.

    i have publicized this incident for the purpose of showing other people who
    are following in my wake what they may have to deal with. forewarned is
    forearmed.

    i have found the best way to deal with water cops is to have your vessel
    absolutely properly equipped and properly operated [i did buy a fire
    extinguisher for the dingy - never know, may be able to help someone with
    it some day], be polite, taciturn, and reserved with cops [colin powell
    once said that postponement of emotions was an essential skill he had
    learned], have a witness on your side, and record all the facts, including
    the cop's name, as quickly as practical.

    Norm
    S/V Bandersnatch
    Lying 30 07.7N 081 39.6W
    Julington Creek Estuary FL

    p.s - i noticed several respondants included my entire outgoing message in
    their replies. i would like to remind folks that it is a good thing to
    include only enough of the original message to remind folks of what the
    thread is about. as the great proffesor strunk once said, 'omit useless
    words'.

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