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Re: lv-ab: liveaboard boat ; bayfield 40?

From: Steve Weinstein (no email)
Date: Tue Aug 08 2006 - 11:30:27 EDT

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    Merrill, 40' is probably approaching the upper limit for single-handing but
    it's certainly doable. It really depends on how it's set up. If it's a spit
    rig then you've already reduced the size of the sails to be dealt with
    although you've added an additional sail (the mizzen - if it's a ketch).
    Also is how it would be rigged, i.e., lines (halyards, etc.) led to the
    cockpit as opposed to mast mounted winches.

    Also a boat that size would probably require you to keep a more vigilant eye
    on the weather in the sense that, by yourself, you might reef down
    considerably sooner than you might had you had crew aboard to help.

    Ground tackle is another area to think about. If you had an electric/manual
    windless with a remote at the helm you could handle anchoring chores by
    yourself. Absent a windless you'd have to be hauling up a lot of weight
    (assuming you've got the right sized setup for that size boat) from the bow
    while nobody's at the helm.

    With the correct setup on the boat there's no reason you couldn't
    single-hand a 40 footer....

    But that's just my $.02.....

    Steve Weinstein
    s/v HYDRO-THERAPY
    1981 Cherubini Designed H33
    Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ballantyne, Merrill" <>
    To: "Live-Aboard at Crux dot Astro. Utoronto. Ca"
    <>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:33 AM
    Subject: RE: lv-ab: liveaboard boat ; bayfield 40?

    > Does anyone other than me think a 40' boat is too big for a single guy?
    > Lee you might know bob Haney- I recommended henrik think about something
    > similar in size and vintage Pearson triton hull number one which he's
    > restoring in Ithaca (I grew up there). A classic boat that has been
    > completely redone, is immaculate, and which has interior/equipment
    > upgrades could be a better value in terms of quality for the price than
    > a similarly equipped newer boat, and might also hold its value better.
    > I'm also a fan of westsails, endeavors, pacific seacraft, yankee's,
    > bristols, pearsons, and albergs.
    >
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    > Haefele
    > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:34 PM
    > To: Jim
    > Cc: Live-Aboard at Crux dot Astro. Utoronto. Ca
    > Subject: Re: lv-ab: liveaboard boat ; bayfield 40?
    >
    > Bayfields are highly respected by their owners, a quality boat. Eastern
    > seaboard & Bahamas: Try to keep draft to about 5', the ICW is very
    > convenient if the weather stays bad. ICW and deep draft don't work well
    > together. Talked to an ex owner of a Whitby 42, a quality boat that did
    > not sell well, he took a low offer, after a year+. Some of these boats
    > are very
    > well equipped with gensets, freezers, SSB radios, watermakers, etc. I
    > think these tend to be a little older than the available Bayfields.
    > Catalina and Beneteau.. There are a lot of these in Bahamas and Carib,
    > they tend to be newer, can be a great deal bought in the islands from a
    > charter fleet, engine hours will be high. Delivery to states not
    > included.
    > Nice interiors in these new boats, bolt on keels and spade rudders are
    > easier to damage, rudders are a frequently damaged item.
    > For layouts on any boat, go to Yachtworld.com, boats for sale, lots of
    > pictures.
    > Not sure about finding jobs, you can work in USA, USVI & PR, possibly
    > DR, not most other countries. Along the east coast US, if you are
    > outgoing, you could probably find short term jobs if you stay a few
    > months in one place.
    > In the anchorages, you would be competing with a lot of good helpful
    > talent helping other boaters for free. In the BVIs you can get a work
    > permit, it takes over 6 months and trips there are required, employers
    > want a 1+ yr contract.
    > I have a nice 1984 Nauticat 33 motorsailer for sale at Ithaca, NY, it
    > has similar (or more) interior space to a Bayfield 40. Very nice 4'1"
    > draft ICW & Bahamas boat that I have sailed to the BVIs.
    > Lee Haefele
    > Nauticat 33 Alesto
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Jim" <>
    > To: <>
    > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:25 PM
    > Subject: Re: lv-ab: liveaboard boat ; bayfield 40?
    >
    >
    >> Also don't leave Irwins out. You can get a lot of boat for the money.
    >
    >> Nothing substantially wrong with Irwin boats.
    >> Jim.
    >> Henrik Hudson wrote:
    >>> Hey List-
    >>>
    >>> Been lurking for some time...looking for a live-aboard boat which
    >>> will initially be tied to the dock and then eventually used for
    >>> eastern seaboard and caribean cruising once I get a better handle on
    >>> my navigation and mechanical / maintenance skills.
    >>>
    >>> Just a little history on me: Currently, 29 and have been a computer
    >>> programmer / sys admin since leaving college. I have sailed and
    >>> raced Hobies, dinghies and scows for many years. I have also done
    >>> some "teaching" on said boats for some clubs around town. I'm looking
    >
    >>> for a boat that me and the "kids" (1 dog, 1 cat) can live-aboard on
    >>> and, in an ideal world, work off of and then marina / anchorage hop
    >>> on weekends although I might be in one location for longer periods.
    >>>
    >>> I've searched the forums, etc... and have come up with some
    > conclusions.
    >>> I love the look of Gozzards, but they're a little pricey. Now, mid
    >>> 80's Bayfield 40's seem to be designed by Ted Gozzard and offer a lot
    >
    >>> of the look, but the price of a "production" boat? Are they still a
    >>> quality boat? Does anyone have a link to layout plans / options that
    >>> were available for the 40? Google didn't help me much.
    >>>
    >>> In general terms I'm looking for a solid, quality boat, but it
    >>> doesn't have to be luxurious. I don't mind having to do some
    >>> electrical upgrades, etc.... Other boats that I'm looking at:
    >>>
    >>> Whitby 42
    >>> Brewer 42/44
    >>> C&C's
    >>> CSY 44 (various)
    >>> Gulfstars
    >>> other??
    >>>
    >>> I have chartered Beneteaus / Catalinas and those are nice boats, but
    >>> do they last for liveaboard? Most of the ones I've been on seem much
    >>> more suited for weekend cruising and within VHF of the marina.
    >>>
    >>> Just out of curiosity and not to step on any toes, but anyone have
    >>> any input on the availabilty of freelance work for fixing computers,
    >>> programming, network setups, etc... while moving around? Is this
    >>> something that is viable to bring in some extra income?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks list.
    >>>
    >>> Henrik
    >>>
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