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lv-ab: Vector Charts

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Date: Sun Aug 06 2006 - 02:37:58 EDT

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     Hi All,
     On another list the message below was posted.
    This was my response.

    And once again I am reinforced in my negative
    opinion of vector charts. The problem is all too
    obvious, human beings can NOT be trusted to make
    decisions regarding the accuracy of the charts we
    are offered. The 'official' paper charts are
    already bad enough (datums that are not accurate,
    GPS not used to make them, ridiculously old data,
    etc.) but when yet another human (the people
    making the vector charting decisions) gets in
    between the paper charts and the navigator it is
    just not safe.
     Oh well, I'm sure I will get all sorts of flame
    over this one... :-)

    Eric Thompson
    S/V Procrastinator
    South San Francisco

    ORIGINAL POST:
    I recently had a chance to play with a Furuno
    Navnet system while planning a
    trip from Vancouver to Campbell River upcoast on
    Vancouver Island.
    This stretch is part of the waters used by a lot
    of people travelling from
    Washington state to Alaska.
    Furuno Navnet uses the C-Map vectorcharts.

    While trying to set up the system and also dp some
    route planning, I noticed
    a number of discrepancies which really shook my
    confidence in using C-Map
    for any serious navigation.

    To begin with the vessel location was placed a
    considerable distance inland
    on some zoom levels. Thsi tells me that the
    geo-referenceing of the chart
    data used by C-Map is not consisitent nor is it
    accurate enough.
    Trying to find the destination marina in Campbell
    River revealed additional
    discrepancies. The level of detail shown and the
    manner of presenting the
    shore lines and depth contours wsa not confidence
    inspiring.
    What would normally be a curved line had distinct
    points connected by
    straight lines.
    This come from not using sufficent points when
    digitizing the area to begin
    with. Although some details wer showsn regarding
    nav aids etc. the manner
    in which rocks and other natural hazards were
    depicted did not seem to be
    sufficient.
    When I had a chance to compare the C-MAP
    electronic cartography and the
    official paper charts produced by CHS the poor
    quality of the C-Map system
    was clearly evident. Personally I would not trust
    the Navnet system using
    C-MAp cartography to navigate these weaters.
    To say I was disappointed is an understatement.
    Likewise the Furuno radar
    display with soft keys and multi layered menus
    proved to be a PITA to set up
    and use. While the professional Captain was
    struggling with trying to get
    the darn nav system working to his satisfaction I
    was compelled to point out
    approaching traffic which posed a hazard or
    potential collision. The thought
    crossed my mind that if we both got too involved
    in configuring the Navnet
    we just might end up in an accident with another
    boat.
    We eventually returned to dock while I continued
    to fiddle with the
    electronics trying to get it to work. Meantime the
    professional Captain
    drove into town and bought a full set of paper
    charts for the trip planning.

    regards
    Arild

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