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Re: lv-ab: Re: Black Water

From: Rosalie B. (no email)
Date: Thu Dec 15 2005 - 07:32:47 EST

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    On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:41:49 -0800, you wrote:

    We had the same in Marathon - with fittings at each dock. Two
    pumpouts a month were standard and included. BUT only on Thursday,
    and only if requested in advance and they didn't tell everyone that
    only two pumpouts a month were included. If someone came in and stayed
    for a month, and got a pumpout each week, they charged $20 for the
    extra two pumpouts. Which they wouldn't find out until they were
    ready to check out unless someone told them.

    This was one of their little money making schemes (like pro-rating if
    you came in the middle of the month on the monthly rate (requiring
    payment at the beginning of the month in advance) but if you left in
    the middle of the month prorating on the weekly rate which was so much
    higher that they wouldn't have to give you any money back, but you
    would owe them money. And having a minimum charge for water
    regardless of how much you used plus the water meters were read
    electronically and you had no way to check on their reading.

    There was also a boat that came around to folks on the moorings for
    $5/time, and they would come to the marinas that didn't have a
    facility for pump-out, but would NOT come to this marina.

    In MD, the MD Dept of the Environment (the state EPA) subsidized the
    marinas and put in pumpout systems and also had a state wide service
    to come and pump out the marina holding tanks. As a payback, the
    marina owners are required to keep records of who they pump out and
    also they cannot charge more than $5. But marinas that had pump outs
    before this program went into effect can charge whatever they want.

    At our marina we have a little electric cart that goes to the boats at
    the dock for $5/ time.

    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Lew Hodgett:
    >Here in SoCal, there are several "Poop Boats" operating.
    >Provide a pump out as scheduled, weekly , bi-monthly, monthly.
    >Several Hollywood types live onboard, so there is a steady demand for
    >service.
    >
    >
    >REPLY
    >At one of the Great Lakes marinas where the company I worked for had
    >several customers docked, the marina piped all the slips with rigid
    >vacuum hoses to a central pump out.
    >All the staff had to do for a pump out was to bring a 10 foot length of
    >hose and the fitting. Quick connect fittings joined hose and pipe plus
    >hose and boat. Sluuurpp!. . . and the boat was pumped out. Plus the
    >summer student staff kept their clean white uniforms tidy.
    >Most Great Lakes Marinas include a once per week pump out as part of the
    >annual slip fees to their regular client.
    >
    >If the marinas in the Great Lake can provide that level of service and
    >keep their pump-outs working, then I can only conclude the coastal
    >marina operators are a bunch of cheap skates and possibly incompetent
    >ones at that!
    >I really can't believe the amount of B.S I keep hearing about how
    >difficult it is to have holding tanks and pumps out facilities etc.
    >Etc. Baloney!!!
    >We have had zero discharge of any black water; treated or otherwise,
    >since 1970 and no one has a problem with it. So why can't these guys on
    >the coasts get with the program?
    >
    >
    >Arild

    grandma Rosalie

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