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Re: lv-ab: your risk, not mine

From: Tom (no email)
Date: Tue Oct 04 2005 - 12:02:35 EDT

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    Poverty by choice?

    Oh, please!

    Tom

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "RLESLIE" <>
    Cc: <>
    Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:50 AM
    Subject: Re: lv-ab: your risk, not mine

    > Judy,
    >
    >
    >>Doesn't society have some obligation to care for those unable to
    >>care for themselves? Those who can barely afford basic living cannot
    >>afford
    >>to pay any form of insurance.
    >>
    >
    > Aren't you talking about two different things: 1) those that truly can
    > not help themselves 2) Those who choose not to help themselves and
    > live in poverty
    >
    > I own a small manufacturing business and have found that I must usually go
    > though 5-6 bad employees to find one good one. For the vast majority (but
    > not all), poverty is a conscious choice.
    >
    > Roger
    >
    >
    > Judy Rouse wrote:
    >
    >>Well, many of my relatives sustained damage in east Texas during Hurricane
    >>Rita. Three of the elderly widows had their homes completely destroyed.
    >>Not one of these relatives is looking for an insurance company to bail
    >>them
    >>out of their current homeless situations, nor are they looking for a
    >>governmental handout. The most any of them hope for is the ability to
    >>obtain some form of low interest loan to assist in their rebuilding. With
    >>family roots in this hurricane zone going back to 1810, these folks
    >>learned
    >>generations ago that they need to be self-sufficient. It's their land;
    >>it's
    >>their problem. If it comes to it, they can fell their own trees and make
    >>their own lumber to rebuild. I have seen some of them do it in years
    >>past.
    >>A low interest loan would make recovery easier and faster.
    >>
    >>But not all people are so fortunate to be strong-willed or physically
    >>capable. Doesn't society have some obligation to care for those unable to
    >>care for themselves? Those who can barely afford basic living cannot
    >>afford
    >>to pay any form of insurance.
    >>
    >>Judy
    >>
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>From:
    >>[mailto:] On Behalf Of Tim Holock
    >>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:03 AM
    >>To: ;
    >>Subject: RE: lv-ab: your risk, not mine
    >>
    >>
    >> Oh good! We're only a small step from moving the discussion to the
    >> concept
    >>of self-insurance. Bring it on!
    >>
    >>Tim
    >>
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>From:
    >>[mailto:] On Behalf Of Richard
    >>Goodwin
    >>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:36 AM
    >>To: ;
    >>Subject: Re: lv-ab: your risk, not mine
    >>
    >>You get my vote.
    >>
    >>We live in a strange society where "personal responsibility" means
    >>*someone*
    >>has to be responsible for me (not me, of course), and if there's a natural
    >>disaster, well then *somebody* is to blame, and must be made to pay... :-)
    >>
    >>Dick
    >>
    >>
    >>--- wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>i assume this will not sit well with many of you (or others).
    >>>
    >>...
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
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