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lv-ab: Re: access, wi-fi, copyrights, cds, how do i know?

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Date: Wed Jul 13 2005 - 18:38:55 EDT

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    You dont know - lots of people will give you their opinion for free, which
    is worth just what you paid for it. Folks who charge you for their opinion
    may or may not be worth what you pay for. YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)
    Certain Restrictions Apply. Void Where Prohibited. Subject to Terms and
    Conditions.

    Anytime you get advice (or need it), check with people you trust, former
    customers of the advice giver, friends and neighbors, and google.

    That said, I implement and teach wi-fi, security, internet, programming,
    etc and liveaboard fulltime. I installed a wifi access point at my marina
    2 years ago so *i* would have dsl on *my* boat, but made it open and
    available to everyone there. BUT i did password/WEP protect it (if you
    care, WEP is not even trivally secure, but that's a thread for another
    group).

    No, you cannot use someone else's *stuff* without their permission in
    general. In fact in the stae of south carolina, the *attempt* (intentional
    OR NOT) is a CRIME. My partner wrote the legislation here, so *yes* i *do*
    know what i'm talking about.

    Will that law hold up in court? Who knows? Do *you* want to be the one
    who's boat is on the hard, waiting to find out? I doubt it. I *dont*.

    As far as "if it wasnt supposed to be public they should have secured it"
    - NO.
    (e.g.) US Copyright law grants you copyright to works you "commit to
    media" *without any notice* attached. It doesnt need to say "this is mine
    dont copy it - *you* have to *assume* that. The same is *likely* true of
    (physical or network) trepass laws.

    Again, you *dont* want to be the one waiting to find out.

    *possibly*, an open, wireless portal with the SSID of "Free for public
    use" would be a good indication you are on safe ground..... Again, your
    mileage may vary. *i* wont be the one to find out.

    The biggest "take away" you should get from the discussion is
    advice is cheap and worth what you paid for it (or less)
    if you wind up 'testing' this advice is court it will be painfull (at best)
    there are *lots* of 'known good' options - use them instead

    oh - and CDs - it's the "backing" media that's the issue. Store them
    upright, dont mess with the labels/ "back" side. The "front" side is
    fairly impervious (see the numerous abrasive "self fix it" kits) and
    *IMPERVIOUS* to xray.

    For some good Wifi hack, see rob F's book "WiFi Hacks" from Oreilly

    yes, you too can build a 20+db gain (read 10 db=10 times signal 20 db = 10
    * 10 = 100 factor gain) antenna from a discarded PromeStar (tm) dish,
    modified pringles can, some scraps of hardware cloth, etc.... *HOWEVER*
    these are not 'certified' systems and are ILLEGAL. Will you prosecuted?
    Highly unlikely. Do you think the FCC has time to chase you down? *should*
    you? That's up to you.

    too many issues, too little time.

    lets get together for a long weekend sometime this fall!
    jim
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