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Re: lv-ab: Where we 'live'

From: The Wanderer (no email)
Date: Wed Apr 06 2005 - 15:27:35 EDT

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    By this statement, are you referring to the small amount of storage space on
    a boat this size, or did you mean something else?

    I have little stuff and even less attachment to the stuff I have.

    Oh wait, I forgot about naivete. I'm attached to my naivete!

    On Apr 6, 2005 9:46 AM, Ron Rogers <> wrote:
    > If it is like my old Crealock 37, you will need a self-storage unit. In NC
    > and Southern Virginia a large one, not climate-controlled, will run $90 to
    > $100 a month.
    > Ron Rogers
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "The Wanderer" <>
    > To: <>
    > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:51 AM
    > Subject: Re: lv-ab: Where we 'live'
    >
    > | My plan is not set in stone. My intention though, is to travel about,
    > | spending as much or as little time in a place as I like, then moving
    > | on.
    > |
    > | I would like to think that I will spend little time in marinas, but I
    > | am aware that that could change. I'm also aware that it could then
    > | change again. I expect to live aboard for a number of years and
    > | therefore expect changes to occur.
    > |
    > | While I will not be rich, I don't think I will need to go to extremes
    > | to get by either. By my figures I should have in the neighborhood of
    > | $35,000 per year, after taxes and health insurance. I believe
    > | (naively?) that I will not need that much initially so I should be
    > | able to put some of it aside for an inflationary future.
    > |
    > | I have a 33 foot ocean capable sailboat. It is a double ended cutter
    > | with a long fin keel and skeg hung rudder. My boat, which is very
    > | similar to a Crealock 37, displaces 13,500 lbs and will be paid for in
    > | full when I retire.
    > |
    > | What else?
    > |
    > |
    > |
    > | On Apr 5, 2005 7:36 PM, Edwin F. Kelly <> wrote:
    > | > Hi <?>,
    > | > I believe many intend to do similar to yourself. I have known many
    > | > that have done as you intend to do.
    > | >
    > | > It all depends on the boat and whether you live in a marina or what
    > | > kind of expenditures you make.
    > | >
    > | > Govt pension with insurance? etc etc.
    > | > .
    > | > Tell me what type of boat you have or intend to get, and what fixed
    > | > expenses you know you will have and I will be glad to give you my
    > | > comments and some figures that others have shared with us.
    > | >
    > | > Let us know your situation.
    > | >
    > | > Enjoue
    > | > On Apr 5, 2005, at 4:36 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
    > | >
    > | > Thanks Norm,
    > | >
    > | > I know, from reading your posts, that you live aboard full time on I
    > | > believe a mastless sailboat. I also gather that you spend a lot of
    > | > time in the Chesapeake Bay. Are you there full time or do you wander
    > | > around? My plan is to not necessarily cross any large bodies of water,
    > | > (although I could, well my boat could), but I did think I might move
    > | > around a lot in coastal areas of the US and on the navigable rivers. I
    > | > could bump the coast of Central and South America too, but I'm not
    > | > sure it matters. Anyplace I haven't been is exotic to me.
    > | >
    > | > I will have a small pension plus some investment income, which I
    > | > expect to be enough. Do you mostly live on previously accrued monies
    > | > or do you earn some or all of you income now? Or is it none of my
    > | > business? I just wonder what your circumstances are. If you are
    > | > living off retirement and/or savings I was interested in knowing the
    > | > costs are about what you expected when you began.
    > | >
    > | > It seems to me I should be able to live more cheaply on the the boat
    > | > than I do now. Plus my disposable income will actually be somewhat
    > | > larger than it is now since I will no longer be saving for retirement.
    > | > Of course when I'm not going to the office for 9 hours a day I will
    > | > have more time to spend money...
    > | >
    > | > ----- Original Message -----
    > | > From:
    > | > To:
    > | > Subject: Re: lv-ab: Where we 'live'
    > | > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:34:13 EST
    > | >
    > | > >
    > | > > In a message dated 3/21/2005 2:20:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    > | > > writes:
    > | > >
    > | > >>
    > | > >> I seek opinions(s) of what folks who choose to live aboard, and
    > | > >> on the move, use as an official address. For a U.S. citizen, what
    > | > >> states are advantageous from a taxation point of view? Are there
    > | > >> other considerations? Actually I'm sure there are other
    > | > >> considerations. I'd like to know what some of you have felt the
    > | > >> need to consider. The vagabond in question would not have job,
    > | > >> but would have an income from retirement pensions and
    > | > >> investments. Thus she or he would be entirely free to move about
    > | > >> but might still need or be required to have, a fixed address.
    > | > >
    > | > >
    > | > > I have been registered in Florida for years. Both the dinghy and the
    > | > > big
    > | > > boat together is less than $100 to the state for registration. There
    > | > > are no
    > | > > other fees.
    > | > >
    > | > > I use St Brendan's Isle for mail and home of record. That is the
    > | > > address on
    > | > > my drivers license, voters registration, all financial records
    (Visa,
    > | > > Schwab,
    > | > > Etc).
    > | > >
    > | > > I have had no serious problems with this, but I have been warned by
    > | > > others
    > | > > that if questioned by some "authority" to never say that I am
    "living
    > | > > aboard'
    > | > > but that I live in Florida and am "cruising".
    > | > >
    > | > >
    > | > > Norm
    > | > > S/V Bandersnatch
    > | > > St Augustine
    > | >
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