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From: Sue and Don (no email)
Date: Thu Dec 16 2004 - 10:13:19 EST
This is the whole point. The US put a 27% tarif on Canadian softwood,
the Canadians appealed to both NAFTA and the WTO and won repeatedly.
But the US refused to lower the tarif, and refused to rebate the more
than 2 billion dollars that have already been extracted from Canadian
lumber producers.
In retaliation, Canada has proposed a set of tarifs on several US
items including boats. The WTO and NAFTA will probably approve these
tarifs as legal because they are in retaliation for an illegal tarif
already in place.
What Canada wants to happen is what happened when Europe also got WTO
approval for retaliatory tarifs after the US put an illegal tarif on
steel. The US backed down and dropped the tarif.
So, if folks on this list want to write to pols to get this boat tax
rescinded then the US readers should lobby their politicians to drop
the softwood lumber tarif. This is especially true for anyone on the
list who is in the US boatbuilding business.
Don.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:55:02 -0800, Daryl Manning <> wrote:
> Are you guys sure about this issue ? My guess is that under NAFTA rules
> this would amount to protectionist measures and be challenged and
> overturned.
>
> I'd check to make this is *actual* legislation being considered and not
> so silly *email tax* type scam thing running around the airwaves that
> happens from time to time.
>
> Of course, considering the US routinely ignores WTO rulings about
> softwood lumber... =}
>
> ciao !
> Daryl.
>
>
> On 15-Dec-04, at 5:31 AM, Dwight Yachuk wrote:
>
> > I called the Department of Finance on this issue last week.
> >
> > The concern is to put tarrifs in place that hurt US producers not
> > Canadians.
> >
> > Since I plan to buy a used US boat next spring I wrote in stating that
> > the tarrifs should not be on used boats.
> >
> > I suggest those who would be affected write in as well.
> >
> > dwight
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > [mailto:]On Behalf Of De Clarke
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:08 PM
> > To: Live-Aboard
> > Subject: Re: lv-ab: Fwd: 100% Surtax on US Made boats
> >
> >
> > Corinne Sutter-Brown () wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> As I am sure, many of you have heard the Canadian government is
> >>>> considering putting a 100% surtax on yachts and other pleasure
> >>>> boats made in the U. S. and imported into Canada. If the
> >>>> government goes ahead with this it would double the cost of boats
> >>>> coming into Canada. The result would be devastating to our
> >>>> industry and to our businesses.
> >
> > not too good all around, as the usual response to a move like this is
> > for the insulted party (the US in this case) to slap on a mirror-tariff
> > in the other direction. which would effectively prevent me from ever
> > bringing my recently-purchased Canadian boat into the US, as I simply
> > cannot pay the purchase price over again.
> >
> > what I mean is that these trade wars tend to escalate, and while the
> > big business interests sometimes find clever ways around the rules,
> > with all their false-flag operations and armies of lawyers, the small
> > business person and the consumer get socked in the gut.
> >
> > aieee. as if buying a boat wasn't already complicated enough, now I
> > get to worry about this? sigh.
> >
> > de
> >
> > --
> > .......................................................................
> > ......
> > :De Clarke, Software Engineer UCO/Lick
> > Observatory, UCSC:
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