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lv-ab: Watching movies - help

From: lavida (no email)
Date: Mon Nov 01 2004 - 17:07:18 EST

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    We've been building a library for cruising for a bit now and had no idea
    DVD's were restricted this way.

    Could someone point me to a definitive www site where I can learn the ins
    and outs of all this.

    thanks in advance,
    mike
    lavida
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Daryl Manning" <>
    To: "Live-Aboard List" <>
    Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:26 AM
    Subject: Re: lv-ab: Watching movies

    > While i can't speak to that software in particular, you can do a search
    > for DVD "ripping" software on virtually any major software download site
    > and find some. Or google "DVD ripping." There is plenty of stuff for
    > windows out there.
    >
    > On the Mac I recommend the *excellent* MacTheRipper (check
    > www.versiontracker.com) which will also get around Region copy protection
    > as far as I know and copy the full data to your hard drive where you can
    > play it (about 4GB of space though) from there. I do this all the time
    > when travelling simply because the hard drive conserves power much more
    > efficiently than the optical drive on my laptop so I can still work after
    > watching a movie on a flight or long train ride. I consider it fair use
    > for purchased and rented DVDs though with the way the laws have become so
    > absurd lately, I would not be surprised if it were illegal in the US now
    > even if widespread.
    >
    > <rant>
    > DVD Region protection is a big issue with a lot of electronic consumer
    > rights organizations. There is *no* good reason for the DVD Consortium
    > which has enforced this standard on the manufacturers to have implemented
    > it other than extracting more profit out of consumers. Personally, as
    > someone who moves between Europe and North America regularly I find I am
    > forced to break "the law" in order to watch movies I've legitimately
    > purchased which is *completely* unacceptable. It's very consumer hostile
    > and another example of technology being used to limit consumers "fair
    > use" rights. It has *nothing* to do with piracy or release schedules
    > despite the rhetoric.
    > </rant>
    >
    > *Many* DVD players on computers can have their memory flashed to become
    > region free. This is *not* for the faint of heart and can damage your
    > player permanently and you need *exactly* the correct program for your
    > *exact* model. But the option is there if you choose to pursue it.
    >
    > Also note, most players allow you to set your region five times before it
    > becomes set permanently (I believe this was legislated by the courts over
    > the locking mechanism but may be incorrect). There are many utilities to
    > unlock the region changing again (RegionX on the Mac etc) as well.
    >
    > Anyhow, don't want this to become another tech discussion but I figure
    > this is one of the main uses of computers for a lot of cruisers right
    > after email... =} I used to hook my laptop up to a big flat screen and
    > watch movies that way. Worked great !
    >
    > good luck !
    > Daryl.
    >
    >
    > On 31-Oct-04, at 8:45 PM, Tom wrote:
    >
    >> The software you talk about won't allow you to copy movies for your own
    >> library. The only one that used to do that was X-Copy and they stopped
    >> selling it due to pressure from big business as it made perfect copies
    >> by removing the copyright data from the movie dvd's.
    >>
    >> X-Copy has some software out there now but it's not the same, think it's
    >> called Express X-Copy or X-Copy Express (similar to Outlook *Express*),
    >> it's the lite version.
    >>
    >> You CAN however locate on the Internet software via some sites that
    >> allows you to "fool" your computer into reading ANY time zone.
    >>
    >> The reason for those "area codes" are that movies are not released
    >> around the world all at the same time. And unless you have a dvd
    >> reader/player that has all the "area codes" or is able to ignore all the
    >> "area codes" you will only be able to "see" the movies in your
    >> particular "area code".
    >>
    >> If people come over from Europe by plane and bring the latest dvd movie
    >> with them they will be hard pressed to find a player UNLESS it's a
    >> European notebook that is already loaded with the "area code" of the
    >> part of the world where it was sold.
    >>
    >> Tom
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "capteric36" <>
    >> To: "LIVE_ABOARD" <>
    >> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:09 PM
    >> Subject: lv-ab: Watching movies
    >>
    >>
    >>> Hi All,
    >>> Well I can watch a movie now.
    >>> No, I can't set the "Region Code" on my DVD drive. Yes I am
    >>> running "RegionFree" (trial version) and that solves the
    >>> problem.
    >>>
    >>> Why does LG (I have their GSA-4120b multiformat, double
    >>> layer DVD writer drive) continue to pretend that Windows 98
    >>> SE will allow me to set the "Region Code??
    >>> I have no idea but tomorrow I will call their customer
    >>> support ONE MORE TIME and ask to speak with a supervisor.
    >>> This, of course, will help not at all...
    >>>
    >>> I guess I'll have to pay the $29.99 for the RegionFree
    >>> permanent version. Gee, then I cane steal movies and save
    >>> them to my own DVDs and build a HUGE library of movies I
    >>> rented once..say, do you think THAT"S what LG WANTS it's
    >>> customers to do???
    >>>
    >>> Eric Thompson
    >>> S/V Procrastinator
    >>> South San Francisco
    >>>
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