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From: lavida (no email)
Date: Mon Nov 01 2004 - 17:07:18 EST
We've been building a library for cruising for a bit now and had no idea
DVD's were restricted this way.
Could someone point me to a definitive www site where I can learn the ins
and outs of all this.
thanks in advance,
mike
lavida
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daryl Manning" <>
To: "Live-Aboard List" <>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: lv-ab: Watching movies
> While i can't speak to that software in particular, you can do a search
> for DVD "ripping" software on virtually any major software download site
> and find some. Or google "DVD ripping." There is plenty of stuff for
> windows out there.
>
> On the Mac I recommend the *excellent* MacTheRipper (check
> www.versiontracker.com) which will also get around Region copy protection
> as far as I know and copy the full data to your hard drive where you can
> play it (about 4GB of space though) from there. I do this all the time
> when travelling simply because the hard drive conserves power much more
> efficiently than the optical drive on my laptop so I can still work after
> watching a movie on a flight or long train ride. I consider it fair use
> for purchased and rented DVDs though with the way the laws have become so
> absurd lately, I would not be surprised if it were illegal in the US now
> even if widespread.
>
> <rant>
> DVD Region protection is a big issue with a lot of electronic consumer
> rights organizations. There is *no* good reason for the DVD Consortium
> which has enforced this standard on the manufacturers to have implemented
> it other than extracting more profit out of consumers. Personally, as
> someone who moves between Europe and North America regularly I find I am
> forced to break "the law" in order to watch movies I've legitimately
> purchased which is *completely* unacceptable. It's very consumer hostile
> and another example of technology being used to limit consumers "fair
> use" rights. It has *nothing* to do with piracy or release schedules
> despite the rhetoric.
> </rant>
>
> *Many* DVD players on computers can have their memory flashed to become
> region free. This is *not* for the faint of heart and can damage your
> player permanently and you need *exactly* the correct program for your
> *exact* model. But the option is there if you choose to pursue it.
>
> Also note, most players allow you to set your region five times before it
> becomes set permanently (I believe this was legislated by the courts over
> the locking mechanism but may be incorrect). There are many utilities to
> unlock the region changing again (RegionX on the Mac etc) as well.
>
> Anyhow, don't want this to become another tech discussion but I figure
> this is one of the main uses of computers for a lot of cruisers right
> after email... =} I used to hook my laptop up to a big flat screen and
> watch movies that way. Worked great !
>
> good luck !
> Daryl.
>
>
> On 31-Oct-04, at 8:45 PM, Tom wrote:
>
>> The software you talk about won't allow you to copy movies for your own
>> library. The only one that used to do that was X-Copy and they stopped
>> selling it due to pressure from big business as it made perfect copies
>> by removing the copyright data from the movie dvd's.
>>
>> X-Copy has some software out there now but it's not the same, think it's
>> called Express X-Copy or X-Copy Express (similar to Outlook *Express*),
>> it's the lite version.
>>
>> You CAN however locate on the Internet software via some sites that
>> allows you to "fool" your computer into reading ANY time zone.
>>
>> The reason for those "area codes" are that movies are not released
>> around the world all at the same time. And unless you have a dvd
>> reader/player that has all the "area codes" or is able to ignore all the
>> "area codes" you will only be able to "see" the movies in your
>> particular "area code".
>>
>> If people come over from Europe by plane and bring the latest dvd movie
>> with them they will be hard pressed to find a player UNLESS it's a
>> European notebook that is already loaded with the "area code" of the
>> part of the world where it was sold.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "capteric36" <>
>> To: "LIVE_ABOARD" <>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:09 PM
>> Subject: lv-ab: Watching movies
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> Well I can watch a movie now.
>>> No, I can't set the "Region Code" on my DVD drive. Yes I am
>>> running "RegionFree" (trial version) and that solves the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Why does LG (I have their GSA-4120b multiformat, double
>>> layer DVD writer drive) continue to pretend that Windows 98
>>> SE will allow me to set the "Region Code??
>>> I have no idea but tomorrow I will call their customer
>>> support ONE MORE TIME and ask to speak with a supervisor.
>>> This, of course, will help not at all...
>>>
>>> I guess I'll have to pay the $29.99 for the RegionFree
>>> permanent version. Gee, then I cane steal movies and save
>>> them to my own DVDs and build a HUGE library of movies I
>>> rented once..say, do you think THAT"S what LG WANTS it's
>>> customers to do???
>>>
>>> Eric Thompson
>>> S/V Procrastinator
>>> South San Francisco
>>>
>>>
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