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Re: lv-ab: Watching movies

From: Daryl Manning (no email)
Date: Mon Nov 01 2004 - 00:26:09 EST

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    While i can't speak to that software in particular, you can do a search
    for DVD "ripping" software on virtually any major software download
    site and find some. Or google "DVD ripping." There is plenty of stuff
    for windows out there.

    On the Mac I recommend the *excellent* MacTheRipper (check
    www.versiontracker.com) which will also get around Region copy
    protection as far as I know and copy the full data to your hard drive
    where you can play it (about 4GB of space though) from there. I do this
    all the time when travelling simply because the hard drive conserves
    power much more efficiently than the optical drive on my laptop so I
    can still work after watching a movie on a flight or long train ride. I
    consider it fair use for purchased and rented DVDs though with the way
    the laws have become so absurd lately, I would not be surprised if it
    were illegal in the US now even if widespread.

    <rant>
    DVD Region protection is a big issue with a lot of electronic consumer
    rights organizations. There is *no* good reason for the DVD Consortium
    which has enforced this standard on the manufacturers to have
    implemented it other than extracting more profit out of consumers.
    Personally, as someone who moves between Europe and North America
    regularly I find I am forced to break "the law" in order to watch
    movies I've legitimately purchased which is *completely* unacceptable.
    It's very consumer hostile and another example of technology being used
    to limit consumers "fair use" rights. It has *nothing* to do with
    piracy or release schedules despite the rhetoric.
    </rant>

    *Many* DVD players on computers can have their memory flashed to become
    region free. This is *not* for the faint of heart and can damage your
    player permanently and you need *exactly* the correct program for your
    *exact* model. But the option is there if you choose to pursue it.

    Also note, most players allow you to set your region five times before
    it becomes set permanently (I believe this was legislated by the courts
    over the locking mechanism but may be incorrect). There are many
    utilities to unlock the region changing again (RegionX on the Mac etc)
    as well.

    Anyhow, don't want this to become another tech discussion but I figure
    this is one of the main uses of computers for a lot of cruisers right
    after email... =} I used to hook my laptop up to a big flat screen and
    watch movies that way. Worked great !

    good luck !
    Daryl.

    On 31-Oct-04, at 8:45 PM, Tom wrote:

    > The software you talk about won't allow you to copy movies for your
    > own library. The only one that used to do that was X-Copy and they
    > stopped selling it due to pressure from big business as it made
    > perfect copies by removing the copyright data from the movie dvd's.
    >
    > X-Copy has some software out there now but it's not the same, think
    > it's called Express X-Copy or X-Copy Express (similar to Outlook
    > *Express*), it's the lite version.
    >
    > You CAN however locate on the Internet software via some sites that
    > allows you to "fool" your computer into reading ANY time zone.
    >
    > The reason for those "area codes" are that movies are not released
    > around the world all at the same time. And unless you have a dvd
    > reader/player that has all the "area codes" or is able to ignore all
    > the "area codes" you will only be able to "see" the movies in your
    > particular "area code".
    >
    > If people come over from Europe by plane and bring the latest dvd
    > movie with them they will be hard pressed to find a player UNLESS it's
    > a European notebook that is already loaded with the "area code" of the
    > part of the world where it was sold.
    >
    > Tom
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- From: "capteric36" <>
    > To: "LIVE_ABOARD" <>
    > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:09 PM
    > Subject: lv-ab: Watching movies
    >
    >
    >> Hi All,
    >> Well I can watch a movie now.
    >> No, I can't set the "Region Code" on my DVD drive. Yes I am
    >> running "RegionFree" (trial version) and that solves the
    >> problem.
    >>
    >> Why does LG (I have their GSA-4120b multiformat, double
    >> layer DVD writer drive) continue to pretend that Windows 98
    >> SE will allow me to set the "Region Code??
    >> I have no idea but tomorrow I will call their customer
    >> support ONE MORE TIME and ask to speak with a supervisor.
    >> This, of course, will help not at all...
    >>
    >> I guess I'll have to pay the $29.99 for the RegionFree
    >> permanent version. Gee, then I cane steal movies and save
    >> them to my own DVDs and build a HUGE library of movies I
    >> rented once..say, do you think THAT"S what LG WANTS it's
    >> customers to do???
    >>
    >> Eric Thompson
    >> S/V Procrastinator
    >> South San Francisco
    >>
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