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Re: lv-ab: Marine Surveyor recommendations

From: Jeff Smith (no email)
Date: Thu Feb 19 2004 - 15:32:40 EST

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    >From: Richard Goodwin <>
    >To: Live-Aboard <>
    >Subject: Re: lv-ab: Marine Surveyor recommendations
    >Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:56:51 -0800 (PST)
    >
    >A couple of surveyor stories...
    >
    >I've had some interesting experiences with marine
    >surveyors. I've used three of them so far -- all
    >highly recommended and in business for a long time.
    >
    >I relate the first story here in spite of the fact
    >that, 30 years ago when it happened, I was obviously
    >not a very upstanding fellow in my business dealings,
    >but I want you to know what can happen.
    >
    >This first time was when I was selling a 25' wooden
    >folkboat in Annapolis. I was recnetly married, broke,
    >desperate for money, and not in any mood to be
    >ethical.
    >
    >The buyer made the mistake of telling me who he was
    >using for a surveyor. I called the surveyor and said
    >I was delighted to meet him because as soon as I sold
    >my boat I was going to buy a much bigger one and
    >wanted him to survey it, provided of course that this
    >boat sold ok with no problems.
    >
    >He actually said to me that he would not jeopardize
    >the sale. He was as good as his word. The survey
    >found nothing wrong in spite of the fact that the
    >stuffing box was so corroded that it leaked water in
    >sufficient quantity to sink her overnight in the slip,
    >and in spite of the fact that the mast had been broken
    >and roughly repaired (by me) by shoving the two ends
    >onto a 3' galvanized pipe and bolting them to the
    >pipe, then covering the break with a thin piece of
    >aluminum sheet.
    >
    >Somehow both the surveyor and the buyer managed to
    >miss these two things. The day after I deposited the
    >buyer's cash in my bank account, the buyer took the
    >battery home to charge it -- something I explicitly
    >told him not to do, neglecting only to say why he
    >shouldn't do that -- and next morning he called me all
    >in a lather because the boat was on the bottom of the
    >slip, which is when he discovered the break in the
    >mast, which was now at eye level from the dock. I
    >read him the riot act for letting "my" boat sink.
    >Hey, I was young and foolish. At least I'm not so
    >young now. :-)
    >
    >The other two times I asked surveyors I hired to give
    >me the lowest possible valuation and list absolutely
    >everything they could find wrong with the boats. They
    >did so beyond my expectations, and enabled me to buy a
    >boat for half what the seller was originally asking.
    >
    >So ... one lesson I learned as a buyer -- never ever
    >tell the seller who you are using for a surveyor.
    >
    >And another lesson -- do your own survey, and bring
    >lots of knowledgeable friends to also survey her, and
    >write down anything you or they don't understand and
    >ask the professional surveyor about it.
    >
    >I've had home inspectors do the same thing -- overlook
    >or minimize problems. One of them said to me: "There
    >are no problems, only opportunities. If I find so
    >many problems that sales fall through, how long do you
    >think I'd be in business?"
    >
    >Good luck. And don't buy a boat from me. :-)
    >
    >Dick
    >
    >
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