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Re: lv-ab: Marine Surveyor recommendations

From: Richard Goodwin (no email)
Date: Wed Feb 18 2004 - 16:56:51 EST

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    A couple of surveyor stories...

    I've had some interesting experiences with marine
    surveyors. I've used three of them so far -- all
    highly recommended and in business for a long time.

    I relate the first story here in spite of the fact
    that, 30 years ago when it happened, I was obviously
    not a very upstanding fellow in my business dealings,
    but I want you to know what can happen.

    This first time was when I was selling a 25' wooden
    folkboat in Annapolis. I was recnetly married, broke,
    desperate for money, and not in any mood to be
    ethical.

    The buyer made the mistake of telling me who he was
    using for a surveyor. I called the surveyor and said
    I was delighted to meet him because as soon as I sold
    my boat I was going to buy a much bigger one and
    wanted him to survey it, provided of course that this
    boat sold ok with no problems.

    He actually said to me that he would not jeopardize
    the sale. He was as good as his word. The survey
    found nothing wrong in spite of the fact that the
    stuffing box was so corroded that it leaked water in
    sufficient quantity to sink her overnight in the slip,
    and in spite of the fact that the mast had been broken
    and roughly repaired (by me) by shoving the two ends
    onto a 3' galvanized pipe and bolting them to the
    pipe, then covering the break with a thin piece of
    aluminum sheet.

    Somehow both the surveyor and the buyer managed to
    miss these two things. The day after I deposited the
    buyer's cash in my bank account, the buyer took the
    battery home to charge it -- something I explicitly
    told him not to do, neglecting only to say why he
    shouldn't do that -- and next morning he called me all
    in a lather because the boat was on the bottom of the
    slip, which is when he discovered the break in the
    mast, which was now at eye level from the dock. I
    read him the riot act for letting "my" boat sink.
    Hey, I was young and foolish. At least I'm not so
    young now. :-)

    The other two times I asked surveyors I hired to give
    me the lowest possible valuation and list absolutely
    everything they could find wrong with the boats. They
    did so beyond my expectations, and enabled me to buy a
    boat for half what the seller was originally asking.

    So ... one lesson I learned as a buyer -- never ever
    tell the seller who you are using for a surveyor.

    And another lesson -- do your own survey, and bring
    lots of knowledgeable friends to also survey her, and
    write down anything you or they don't understand and
    ask the professional surveyor about it.

    I've had home inspectors do the same thing -- overlook
    or minimize problems. One of them said to me: "There
    are no problems, only opportunities. If I find so
    many problems that sales fall through, how long do you
    think I'd be in business?"

    Good luck. And don't buy a boat from me. :-)

    Dick

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