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I went through two of the Par/Jabsco water inlet/regulators, both crapped
out and leaked within a few months. I got rid of it and installed a straight
Perko inlet with a regulator at the shore faucet inline with the hose. I
also have a Melnor lawn "timer". You can set it for how many gallons you
want before it turns off. I usually set it at 400 when I reset it. My bilge
pumps could handle that much I think, but I still turn the valve off when
I'm away from the boat for more than a couple of hours.
Keith
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"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of
that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: lv-ab: more questions
> I think it is more an issue of back pressure. I agree that the pressure
will be the same without a regulator on a sealed system.
>
> I just know that others that have done it, and I have owned many boats
with these "rigs"...and if you reduce the flow/volume in to almost nill, a
well plumbed system with adequate hose, fittings and clamps will work.
>
> One boat I bought the PO actually just installed an inline fitting like
the ones you buy for $1 to flush your car's antifreeze line. He spliced it
in and just screwed the water hose directly up it. It went to the galley
water faucet and cockpit washdown. It worked for him, it worked for me,
and it is probably still out there working.
>
> I was not reccomending this fix for a long term arrangement, nor would I
leave it connected if I left the boat. I would hope that we would have more
sense than to leave the boat with the water on...But sometimes people need a
simple, quick and cheap fix. Sometimes these fixes don't conform to the
almighty boat standards that some require, but they work as long as you are
smart about them and have enough sense to know what to do, how to control
the situation and knowing the chances you take. I mean I would hope that he
and others would go out and buy the proper equipment, like a Par Jabsco
Water Pressure Regulator available at West Marine for $25 or so. But not
every liveaboard is a Sr. Mechanical Engineer, has a Whitby or a Gulfstar or
the $29 at the time to do it right, or for some even a store nearby to buy
the equipment/parts. I am sure at some point we have all rigged or reverse
engineered some system to get it to work for the time being or for your own
personal ne!
> eds for as long as we needed it, that is what one of the things that
living aboard is all about.
>
> Hell I have been on the hook exclusively for over a decade, living on
23-50 footers. I know how to live out there; and live with, rig or live
without all those systems if I choose...haha. But next time I will just
recommend the jerry jug or the rain catcher. What do I know about dockside
living anyway...haha.
>
> No flames please, I wrote this with a tone of humor and a touch of
sincerity.
>
> Cheers-
> Brian
> Beaufort, NC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Gardner <>
> Sent: Oct 2, 2003 2:21 PM
> To: , ,
> Subject: Re: lv-ab: more questions
>
> At 12:54 PM 10/2/2003 -0400, wrote:
> >Jim-
> >
> >What I have done in the past for manuals is to find a user's group, in
> >your case for Gulfstar 41s. Ask other owner's in the group if they have
> >one to spare or if they would copy it and mail it to you, provided you
pay
> >the copy cost and shipping. I have also emailed owners who are selling
> >the boat and asked the same of them... Another good way is to contact
> >some boat dealers/brokers that use to sell Gulfstars or still
> >do...sometimes they have a few old ones sitting around.
> >
> >I am not clear on what your second question is asking. There are many
> >ways you can connect shore water to internal water, but if you don't have
> >a pressure regulator make sure you at least put a hose connection inline
> >that you can adjust the incoming flow volume.
> >
> >Brian
> >Beaufort, NC
> (snip)
>
> Adjusting the flow volume won't do it. Your boat water system probably
> would blow off most of your fittings almost immediately without a
reduction
> in pressure. You should already have a backflow preventer at the hose
> bid. If not, local regulations probably require one. But in addition,
you
> need to reduce the pressure to something that your system can handle. I
> would also strongly recommend using a sprinkler "timer" which shuts off
> after a set number of gallons of water have passed through. If you water
> system should spring a leak this only allows that many gallons into your
> boat. Put it where you can reset it every time you walk by.
>
> Stan
> S/V Seabird V
>
>
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