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Re: lv-ab: Re: Bilge pumps and left overs

From: Stan Gardner (no email)
Date: Mon Sep 08 2003 - 11:06:20 EDT

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    Thanks for the answer. I use a switch I got from West, advertised as their
    best (can't remember the brand). It's a plastic tube, about 3" dia X 6"
    long, mounts vertically. The make two versions, one with a high water
    alarm built in. I have the cheaper model which has worked flawlessly for
    me for 5 years with no maintenance, and reasonable hysteresis.

    BTW, I just bought a high water alarm built primarily for detecting water
    in your basement, but it runs on a 9V battery, has low battery warning, and
    hopefully is loud enough to hear at the helm. Cost, under $10. I'll let
    you know how it works.

    Stan,
    S/V Seabird V

    At 07:30 AM 9/8/2003 -0700, Hugh Barrass wrote:
    >Stan,
    >
    >I think the issue is hysteresis.
    >
    >For those who don't understand the term, the idea is that most people
    >would like their bilge pump to run for a reasonable length of time & then
    >stay idle for a long time before running again. If you imagine a perfectly
    >precise world, then the level of water in your bilge will rise to the
    >level of the trip switch, the pump will come on for an infinitesimally
    >short time, drop the water level below the trip switch & shut off. Within
    >a very short time later the water level will have risen to the level of
    >the switch again & the cycle repeats.
    >
    >Using the delay, you could mount the trip switch a little higher. The pump
    >will switch on when the water level reaches the trip switch; the pump will
    >lower the water level by some amount below the trip switch (60 seconds of
    >pumping) and buy some extra time before it comes on again.
    >
    >Most trip switches have hysteresis built in but this is rarely enough to
    >compensate for boat rocking etc. therefore many automatic bilge pump
    >systems turn on and off at annoyingly frequent intervals - causing people
    >to switch them off at night :-(
    >
    >Hugh.
    >
    >Stan Gardner wrote:
    >
    >>I know this was discussed before, but I can't remember the issue. It
    >>seems to me that if the float switch is properly placed there is no need
    >>to continue to run after it trips. My bilge has about 2" of water in it
    >>when the pump shuts off. Much of this is water that leaks back down from
    >>the pump. If the pump were to run another 60 seconds it would be running
    >>dry. What am I missing?

    Stan Gardner ~~~_/) ~~~ NPTest, Inc.
    Senior Mechanical Engineer 150 Baytech Drive
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